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About Iarmor

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  1. Dangerous to use in combat, but that large Xenon searchlight may save your tank from getting penetrated, if it takes the hit by itself. I heard of several cases in which Xenon searchlights were blasted to pieces by Egyptian Saggers during the 1973 war, while the M48/M60 kept going intact.
  2. The movie was filmed in the Judaean desert, not far from the Dead Sea. The tanks used were ex-IDF Tiran 5. At that time (mid-late 80's) the IDF had phased out hundreds of Tiran 4 & 5 tanks due to budget cuts. Their IDF numbers can be seen on steel plates welded to the front hull: 130300, 130545. 13#### means they were captured during the Yom Kippur War. An IAF SA-321K Super Frelon helicopter also participated the movie. These were taken out of service in 1991.
  3. In this picture gallery taken in a 1973 war booty lot, 100 mm rounds are seen being unloaded from a SU-100: BM-8 HVAPDS and OF-412 HE-Frag https://ids.lib.harvard.edu/ids/view/401545830?width=600&height=374&html=y https://ids.lib.harvard.edu/ids/view/401545842?width=600&height=375&html=y OF-412 HE-Frag https://ids.lib.harvard.edu/ids/view/401545854?width=600&height=374&html=y https://ids.lib.harvard.edu/ids/view/401545860?width=600&height=382&html=y 3BK-5M HEAT https://ids.lib.harvard.edu/ids/view/401545941?width=600&height=364&html=y https://ids.lib.harvard.edu/ids/view/401545798?width=600&height=376&html=y High resolution pictures are available in the gallery link. Please correct me if I'm wrong with the round ID.
  4. Magach 3 no. 817581 returned to Israel from Russia after it was captured by the Syrian army on the Sultan Yacoub Battle in 1982 (from which 3 IDF tankers are still MIA): Now it is displayed in the Latrun museum: Israel sent Magach 3 no. 819406 to Kubinka as a replacement: The 8 Magach 3 tanks captured in that battle were very interesting for the Soviets, introducing ERA and APFSDS rounds. Another one of them, no. 817688, is displayed at the Tishreen War Panorama Museum in Damascus:
  5. Lack of 100 mm HEAT and APDS was true for 1967. It was one of the reasons why the IDF had decided to replace the 100 mm gun with 105 mm. Another reason was that Egyptian commandos infiltrated Sinai and blew up a war booty ammunition dump the IDF had piled up near Qantara in July 1967, shortly after the war. By 1973 the Arab armies were supplied with 100 mm HEAT, APDS, 115 mm HEAT and APFSDS. AFAIK only a handful of 100 mm HEAT were available per tank, which corresponds to 3-5% of the reported hits. The IDF retained the 115 mm until the Tiran 6 ended its service in 1992. The new captured T-54/55s were fitted with 105 mm just like the 1967 examples, but 100 mm guns were still in use as late as 1975:
  6. Note that 23% of the hitting munitions on the Egyptian front and 31% on the Syrian front were classified as "other", which presumably stands for artillery, airstrikes, etc. As the examined tanks were the heavily-damaged ones evacuated to the rear, I wonder if lightly-damaged tanks and tanks captured by the Egyptians might have changed the statistics a bit. For example, many M48s that managed to arrive to their firing ramps near the canal strongholds, were then hit (in the turret most probably) by Saggers fired from the western bank and ended up in Egyptian hands. Unlike the Golan Heights, The Egyptian theater can indeed be largely described as an open desert for most 1967 & 1973 battles, with the exceptions of urban areas and the agricultural area south of Ismailia.
  7. The tank is said to be ready in 1 hour. At first they cannibalized an intact gun barrel from another damaged tank, but then a truck arrived with a new spare barrel, so now they assemble the new spare barrel. The air cleaner is also being replaced, after being damaged by mortar fire. 1:20 to 1:45: halftrack's engine replacement, after the water pump broke. The halftrack is said to be ready in 2 hours. 1:45 to 2:25: Shot Cal engine and air cleaner replacement, after a direct hit by 120 mm mortar round. This tank is said to be ready by tomorrow morning.
  8. 0:10 to 1:15: replacement of a Shot Cal's gun barrel, which was hit by AP the previous evening. Footage taken on October 21st 1973, showing AFVs being repaired by an ordnance company around "Tzach" crossroad beyond the Suez canal. Several more pictures appear along this PDF, which tells the company's war story. The Shot Cal with its damaged gun appears on page 50.
  9. "The maintenance on the southern front during the Yom Kippur war" (Hebrew) paper, written by an IDF ordnance officer for command and staff course in 1990, is available on the IDF ordnance corps association website. Part 9 of it includes details from the damaged tanks survey the IDF had carried out after the war, on pages 293-304. According to the paper, 214 damaged tanks were examined: 114 Shot Cal, 51 Shot Meteor, 35 Magach 3, 17 Magach 6. These numbers add up to 217. No Shermans or Tirans mentioned. Expect for 20 (Magach) tanks examined on field, near the Chinese Farm, all the rest were examined in an ordnance depot in central Israel. 110 were from the Syrian front (66 Shot Cal, 44 Shot Meteor), 74 from the Egyptian front (51 Magach, 22 Shot Cal, 1 Shot Meteor), for 26 there was no record where were they evacuated from (Shot Cal tanks served on both fronts). Here the numbers add up to 210. Number of hits per tank: 75% were hit once or twice. 25% took 3 hits or more. 1.9 hits average per tank. 2 tanks took as many as 7 hits. On the Syrian front: 35% were hit once, 39% twice, 2.1 hits average per tank. Egyptian front: 54% once, 26% twice, 1.8 hits average per tank. Hit area: 35% turret front (30 degrees), 18% turret sides, 11% hull front, 36% hull sides. In another place, the report claims that 71% (=35%+36%) of the hits were in the turret, 29% (=18%+11%) in the hull. That's probably a mistake. Hitting munition type: Egyptian front: 16% RPG, 26% Sagger, 3% tank-fired HEAT, 9% other HEAT, 23% 100 mm AP, 23% other. Syrian front: 7% RPG, 3% Sagger, 5% tank-fired HEAT, 6% other HEAT, 29% 100 mm AP, 19% 115 mm AP, 31% other. HEAT munitions had the highest penetration rate, 86%. No significant difference between turret and hull penetration rates. Total loss: 20% on the Egyptian front, 9% on the Syrian front. Common damage to Shot tanks: 33% manual gun elevation mechanism, 28% TC's copula, 26% gun barrel, 24% radio, 24% gun mantlet dust cover, 22% manual turret traverse mechanism. Common damage to Magach tanks: 37% gun barrel, 34% TC's copula, 23% radio, 17% TC's elevation and traverse mechanism, 17% gun mantlet dust cover, 15% loader's hatch.
  10. The English version is now on Google Books.
  11. Up until 2003, the danger of Iraq sending an armored corps or two through Jordan to join Syria in a war was a major concern for Israel. ATGMs were developed to counter the threatening T-72 hordes, but still the 120 mm was needed and came late compared to the Leopard and Abrams. During the 1990-1991 gulf crisis, 105 mm gunned IDF tanks were almost put to that test. Training in December 1990: And in February 1991:
  12. It is from the Merkava Mk. 4 development period, presumably 1999-2003. Read the first comment here. Also note the Merkava Mk. 3 at the background. The Mk. 3, with its long-overdue 120 mm gun, entered service only in 1990 (by that time the Syrians and the Iraqis have already acquired well over 2,000 T-72s).
  13. The IDF overhauling captured T-55s after the Yom Kippur war:
  14. Israeli - Syrian border, September 1972: Panzer IV at 0:18
  15. https://tankandafvnews.com/2017/03/29/photo-of-the-day-israeli-mystery-tank/ Not many details, but a nice pic