steel beast (and sweend)

[The_Sweed]

is steel beast as fully and realistic as it seems to be? i'v never played this game befor, but i have played other "tank gamez" like operation flashpoint. how is the controls? can i be the driver in a multiplayer game?

i'v long been a fan of tanks just for the brutal size and kanon and all the other things. i would be gratefull for a lot of awnsers.

are there enny swedish people in here? if there are, say hi to me :D


thank's for awnsering

[Hell_Hound]

You can drive the tank in any type of game, SP or MP.

To find lots of Swedish SB fans, head over to http://www.ronner.net.

[dejawolf]

http://www.esimgames.com/images/DK_setup_7.jpg
http://www.esimgames.com/images/DK_setup_1.jpg

;) realistic enough fer ya?

[pide]

dejawolf - that first pic, who uses that setup to use SB?

[fxman249]

I have been playing Operation Flashpoint for many years, and have seen it as a training tool first-hand as well. I don't want to spend much time here talking about another company's game, but OFP was designed primarily as an Infantryman's simulator, not armor or air. Yes you can drive tanks, trucks, boats, planes, and helos. But if you spend an hour with a tank in OFP and then hop into SB, you'll see the major differences in the first 10 seconds.

This game concentrates mostly on armored simulation, including accurate ballistics, damage control, fire control systems, etc. In OFP, you don't lase a target before firing, you just point and shoot. OFP includes armored vehicles more for combined support purposes, but doesn't compare to the realism that SB has. If you are into tanks, Steel Beasts is where it's at. If you want infantry, then OFP is where to look.

As far as driving goes, no you are not yet able in SB1 to drive from the driver's seat. You can issue commands such as steer left, steer right, forward slow, forward fast, halt, etc. I'm guessing that in the SB Pro version or SB2 the driver's position will be there. But right now you still have full control of driving commands.

Those pics in the post above are from a military setup used with the SB Pro. Wiring up and programming spare parts as a joystick are not complicated, and they have done so to assist in making it more realistic for the soldier using the system. But if you head on over to the SB Pro and Pro PE links, you'll get a glimpse of just how real this "game" is getting. :D

[Rata18]

I've never heard of plans to actually man the driver's slot.

It isn't really necessary as the AI driver makes a good job of general 'moving around' under the commander's orders, and you can always use the 'manual-driving' commands from the other positions if required.

[fxman249]

I was kind of thinking that all the crew positions, with possible exception of the loader, would be fully planned for future development for SB Pro? Maybe not the current release, but for a later upgrade. Having seen other simulation software, I think it would be nice that the driver, gunner, and TC are all fully crewable to allow for simultaneous crewing under a team MP scenario. Having a full crew running a scenario together would be a nice training exercise, because your crew can work as a team as they train on their individual skills as well. Your driver needs to practice using proper defilade and movement techniques, and sometimes the AI might not be what you need. If you are busy gunning and need the driver to take action above the skill of an AI, it might become unusual for a gunner to try and "drive" the tank into position when he really should be keeping his eye through the sights or scanning for targets?

I don't mean a full-on driving simulator with gears, full guages, power controls, light switches, etc. But to have an actual driver's crewable position would be a benefit to the training tool aspect. Not so much to teach the technical aspects of driving, but to train as a team and practice your skills with other human crew. But I guess this is something the military customers would be better answering, as they know more about what they need than I would.

And besides, what cold-hearted tanker wouldn't like a first-person view of running down REDFOR "Crunchies"? :helmet: :twisted:

[Trekker]

Fxman in my opinion that would be nice if you have a full tank simulator, along with a fully working driverseat.
But in this kind of sim that is something the TC can manage just fine since it's just four buttons. :thelmuts:

And Hi Sweed..

[LEAF56]

Välkommen ombord Sweed.

Om du har några frågor eller funderingar och hellre vill skriva på svenska så kan du vända dej till den Svenska SB sidan

http://www.ronner.net/index.php

LEAF56 8)

[Lone*star49]

is steel beast as fully and realistic as it seems to be? i'v never played this game befor, but i have played other "tank gamez" like operation flashpoint. how is the controls? can i be the driver in a multiplayer game?

i'v long been a fan of tanks just for the brutal size and kanon and all the other things. i would be gratefull for a lot of awnsers.

are there enny swedish people in here? if there are, say hi to me :D


thank's for awnsering
...

Welcome aboard Sweed.. below are some Vets of SB from you area:

Also, I would suggest you download Team Speak, and get a 15 - 20 dollar boom mic and hook-up with any of the following in SB Team Speak Lobby, and you can increase you learing curve, pase, with any of them..

Get Teamspeak there : http://www.goteamspeak.com/news.php


LS
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TC, I can personally recommend WB (Wahrborg) as an excellant "instructor" and advise you to take him, and the following, up on this offer:

**WB.. Wahrborg (LEO & M1)

**Joe.. (from E Germany).. (LEO & M1)

*Pakenko (Pak).. LEO & M1

**Bluewings.. LEO & M1

*Cobra.. LEO & M1

*Luit.. LEO

BlackIce.. LEO & M1

*KT (KingTiger).. LEO

**Trekker.. LEO & M1

**Oddball (OB) LEO & M1

*Alpha Serria.. LEO

McCoy.. LEO
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All of these SB memebers are excellant instructors, in your time zone and area, and I advise you to get in as many battles, big or small, with them for the experience and fast learning methods they can offer ya..

I also suggest, you PM (Private Message) each of them, thru the SB Forum Memeber List, to make contacts with them..

They know the good maps, and battles, big and small, etc., and will give you all the help and "hints" you can learn thru an "acclerated" pace, that will make you "the challenge" that they already are..

** Masters

* Vets


Good hunting..



LS :helmet:

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~ Fate is the Hunter ~

[Kingtiger]

Tjena Sweed!! Välkommen i gänget... skojigt att se fler svenskar som spelar SB nu :-D

/Kingtiger

[ShermansWar]

BW is a master? don't tell him that, he'll cream himself,LoL. :lol:

[sbrocker8]

Hey Sweed. As you can see, we have quite the international community here at SB. I've only been playing for a few weeks, and already I can tell you that this is the most realistic tank "game" ever developed, and Pro PE and SB2 are only gonna get better!!! I've been told that I got into the community at a good time to be able to develop skills just before PRO PE comes out (for which I'm planning on getting a new computer, and a cable connection, THAT'S how awesome the people here are!), since a lot of the skills will be transferable due to the fact thta a sim is a sim.

One thing that you'll quickly find out it that the "brutal size" and big guns of a tank mean absolutely dick when your tactics suck... I came into the Steel Beasts experience thinking tanks were almost invincible, but now I know better. Over all SB is an EXTREMELY immersive atmosphere if you let it be. We have the best people here on multiplayer, and this is one of the most friendly places for gamers of all skill levels.

One other AWESOME thing about the SB community is that on the forums here, the developers at eSimgames LISTEN to us! How many people can say that their favorite game incorporates something that THEY suggested in a forum!?! Well, hopefully LOTS of people in the New Hampshire area, as I've been hyping the game up to all of my friends...

[Lone*star49]

BW is a master? don't tell him that, he'll cream himself,LoL. :lol:
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Well, I consider "Master" to fall under 2 catigories..

Tactical and practical..

BW, falls under practical, in his knowledge of PC's and the applicaitons of any PC matter in regards to SB1.. along with operating funtions of any of the SB game itself..


LS :lol:

[Ssnake]

As far as other crew positions are concerned, I see little entertainment value in them, but I concede that their presence would be desirable to train an entire crew. We are aware of it, but it's too early to discuss details publicly.

[Wahrborg]

Hello The Sweed. I guess my "hidden advertising" on SoldF.com opened the eyes for some people at least ;)
I use to watch your thread "Combat vehicle quiz" and it's allmost scary how much knowledge you guys
posses lol! So take your friends from there and get them here, cuz we all want a swedish invasion of this place ;) LoL

[TankHunter]

http://www.esimgames.com/images/DK_setup_7.jpg
http://www.esimgames.com/images/DK_setup_1.jpg

;) realistic enough fer ya?

Holy Jesus on a stick! :shock: :o Where can I get one? :D :twisted:

[dejawolf]

well, those are real leopard 1 parts with some smart computer wiring ;) might be a bit hard to come by, hehe.

[Bluewings]

I read somewhere theses Cadillacs were around $5.000 .

Am I correct ?

Cheers . :3starSK:

[dejawolf]

that would be about correct.

[Bluewings]

Good . Get me one . :mrgreen:

Cheers . :3starSK:

[TankHunter]

I read somewhere theses Cadillacs were around $5.000 .

Am I correct ?

Cheers . :3starSK:

Damn it! Any way to get used ones? :lol:

[Ssnake]

No, but there may be an offer for cheaper replicas soon; there's this British company with which we've been in contact for a while now. I'll keep you posted.

[TankHunter]

No, but there may be an offer for cheaper replicas soon; there's this British company with which we've been in contact for a while now. I'll keep you posted.

:D Hey thanks Ssnake :D

[Bluewings]

Ssnake , you just made my day !! :P :thumbup:

Cheers . :3starSK:

[Wolfman]

No, but there may be an offer for cheaper replicas soon; there's this British company with which we've been in contact for a while now. I'll keep you posted.

:shock:

Surely you jest!?

[Ssnake]

No, I don't.
There will be a web site in a few weeks. They will still rather be luxury goods in the price range of a full computer system (under 1,500.- USD), but tooled out and cast of massive aluminum. These will last a lifetime. For a price drop into the "under $400.-" range there would be new machines needed that simply are too costly, but given that their first prototypes were in the $4,000.- range, this is a remarkable improvement. I have tested that prototype, and it was practically identical in look & feel with the real handles. Excellent smooth tracking etc.
There is no doubt however that these handles offer not much additional use other than the look and feel of the original handles. They would be ideal for a home construction of a mockup/training cabin like those crazy guys who buy the cockpits of old F-15 jets and refurbish them with instruments and computer screens to create themselves a jet flight simulator. OK, it's the ultimate toy and focus of the envy of your peers - but also an almost guaranteed ticket to divorce.

[TankHunter]

No, I don't.
There will be a web site in a few weeks. They will still rather be luxury goods in the price range of a full computer system (under 1,500.- USD), but tooled out and cast of massive aluminum. These will last a lifetime. For a price drop into the "under $400.-" range there would be new machines needed that simply are too costly, but given that their first prototypes were in the $4,000.- range, this is a remarkable improvement. I have tested that prototype, and it was practically identical in look & feel with the real handles. Excellent smooth tracking etc.
There is no doubt however that these handles offer not much additional use other than the look and feel of the original handles. They would be ideal for a home construction of a mockup/training cabin like those crazy guys who buy the cockpits of old F-15 jets and refurbish them with instruments and computer screens to create themselves a jet flight simulator. OK, it's the ultimate toy and focus of the envy of your peers - but also an almost guaranteed ticket to divorce.

Ok, so then I shouldn’t make a simulated tank turret and get married. Got it :wink:

[Trekker]

It's ok, just get a nomexoverall and say you'r working from your home. Any woman will understand that.

[Wolfman]

No, I don't.
There will be a web site in a few weeks. They will still rather be luxury goods in the price range of a full computer system (under 1,500.- USD), but tooled out and cast of massive aluminum. These will last a lifetime. For a price drop into the "under $400.-" range there would be new machines needed that simply are too costly, but given that their first prototypes were in the $4,000.- range, this is a remarkable improvement.

Damn, I better go rob a bank then! :(