Newbie II

[SgtSjo]

OK.

I've got it going, and, thanks to ppl here I've found a manual.
A .pdf file. 61 pages. (Thank God I have a friend with a laser printer :-) )

I will go through it, as I will go through the training in the program.

It's a lot easier when you actually sit in a real tank. No keys to hit. You just key the radio and tell the platoon what to do.

Is there any tutorial available on the net? Tips and tricks like?

Cheers,
SgtSjo

[HighTower]

[quote="SgtSjo"]OK.

IWelcome Aboard i suggest that you get into gunnery and practice practice practice. Under 5.0 Sec is what you need to be competitive.

[SgtSjo]

IWelcome Aboard i suggest that you get into gunnery and practice practice practice. Under 5.0 Sec is what you need to be competitive.

Been there, done that. Thanks anyway. This board seems to be a great place. Fast answers. What I'm looking for is a tutorial about tactics (sp?)

And, please, do bear with me if I don't quote right. I am still learning how to use this forum. It's not like "usenet" is it?

Cheers

[TankHunter]

[quote=SgtSjo]OK.

IWelcome Aboard i suggest that you get into gunnery and practice practice practice. Under 5.0 Sec is what you need to be competitive.

What ya need is a good eye for BPs. Gunnery is second.

[Lone*star49]

Been there, done that. Thanks anyway. This board seems to be a great place. Fast answers. What I'm looking for is a tutorial about tactics (sp?)

:arrow: And, please, do bear with me if I don't quote right. I am still learning how to use this forum. It's not like "usenet" is it?

Cheers
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:arrow: Just bear in mind when ya go to someones post and hit the quote button..
you must have both top >< bar and end quote bar ><

with word quote in both..and name of person >[qout Lonestar] at top only.

Can't put the whole word "quote" in bars cause it won't post that way, thus quot.. FYI, hehehe

Then it should show up good..

HINT: while in SP or MP, while in game, when on map, hold down space-bar for color map.. much better than black and white one.. for routing on-the-fly

HINT: whenever you see a target, you can hit the E (engage) key, and tank will turn front hull towards target, for best front hull and turret armor protection. Even if not moving..

HINT: best LOS BP to mark.. find BP with lots of PINK in direction you want to set BP looking.. then back up cursor from that spot till NO pink.. no white, and mark BP and battlebar in direction you want with Defend or other order.. Tank will stop there at set BP mark, then crawl forward, as much as 200m looking for best HD BP.. and set up.

Battle Bar ] >> looking East ... [ <<<<< looking West

left clk on BB (battle bar) and hold down clk on end of BB, and turn as much as 360 degrees.. And while on map, if you see a target East of a tank looking west [ <<< just left (hold down) clk on end of BB and swing it looking E at target ] >>>> and tank will turn and take action, or be rdy when you jump into it ie, gunners slot..etc.

Map directions always the same, TOP North, Bottom South, Left WEST, and Right is EAST.

HINT: in far left upper column in forum, you'll see + Game Info..

clk on the + and the drop menu will appear..

Take advantage of Anti Frustration Kit link.. tactics, what to do if you throw track, lose GPS, Gyro's, etc..

Also MP information..



LS

[Bluewings]

SgtSjo , the best thing you can do is to play the game , again , again and again .

Another good thing to do is to come online with us and we would take you through different routines to put you on the right tracks to developpe your own style and to learn Combined Arms , or Teamwork .

You can download "Teamspeak" there : ftp://ftp.freenet.de/pub/4players/teamspeak.org/releases/ts2_client_rc2_2032.exe
Then get a decent headset if you haven 't one already and come say hello ! :)

We 'll help . :cvcsalute:

Cheers . :3starSK:

[HighTower]

[quote="SgtSjo"]OK.

IWelcome Aboard i suggest that you get into gunnery and practice practice practice. Under 5.0 Sec is what you need to be competitive.

What ya need is a good eye for BPs. Gunnery is second.


I totally disagree with the above statement. If you can't Gun the best BP's on the board will only delay your death. In a BATTLESIGHT ENGAGEMENT. It's a matter of TENTHS of seconds . Where in a BP engagement of 1000m engagement+ your gunneryalso matters because you only get the shot off 1 time before most Human gunners locate then return fire. And in this game most hit first shot.

[TankHunter]

[quote=SgtSjo]OK.

IWelcome Aboard i suggest that you get into gunnery and practice practice practice. Under 5.0 Sec is what you need to be competitive.

What ya need is a good eye for BPs. Gunnery is second.


I totally disagree with the above statement. If you can't Gun the best BP's on the board will only delay your death. In a BATTLESIGHT ENGAGEMENT. It's a matter of TENTHS of seconds . Where in a BP engagement of 1000m engagement+ your gunneryalso matters because you only get the shot off 1 time before most Human gunners locate then return fire. And in this game most hit first shot.

Which is why I
A. Pick Leos and
B. Take my time to engage with my first shot and
C. Duck down behind a ridge after I fire, so then I dont get wasted waiting for the loader to do his job.

[PS-SCUD]

Well HT, certainly if you are an incompetent gunner, you won't be able to hit anything, but even if you are an average gunner you can be extremely effect from good BPs.

A good BP increases your gunnery effectiveness exponentially. Even a poor gunner in a good BP is better than a good gunner in a lousy BP.

[Kingtiger]

Hightower: I can tell U this =

im a sucker on time... im on about 6-7 seconds on long ranges. But I prefer good BP that gives me those extra sekonds... when I was in the army my platoon only had 2 APC that had guns so we was 2 gunners only... the other gunner had a better scoring % on the firing range but when we whent into combat against eachohters I always win... how could that be when he was both faster and more accurat??

Simple. I had best BP and observation... and I used correct way (low and so on)...

So I go for learning finding and using good BP and have a great SA before being good in gunnery...

/KT

[Kingtiger]

Oh, when it comes down to battlesight engagements its all about luck, who had the turret aiming at the enemy first?? who spotted the enemy first? so its all about luck there.... I have only comed in that situation once where both of us spotted us att the same second and hade guns aimin on eachoter... I won, but was the last to fire.... figure that out...

[TankHunter]

Oh, when it comes down to battlesight engagements its all about luck, who had the turret aiming at the enemy first?? who spotted the enemy first? so its all about luck there.... I have only comed in that situation once where both of us spotted us att the same second and hade guns aimin on eachoter... I won, but was the last to fire.... figure that out...

Was the other guy in an M1? :twisted: :lol:

[Kingtiger]

actually no, he was in a Leo, cant remember who it was, but strangeli I WAS in a M1 (and THATS UNUSAL!!)

[Hell_Hound]

The tank range doesn't teach you much of anything about battlesight engagements anyway; whoever has better SA and a cooler head has the edge there. Sometimes you can get yourself out of a tight spot through brilliant gunnery, but please don't stay out of MP just because you don't have your 100 rating yet.

Most of the stuff you'll read about armored tactics pertains to real life, and SB is not in perfect alignment with real life. So like BW said, playing (and getting killed a lot) and then really paying attention to the AAR is the way to get a feel for the game.

If you really feel like you have no idea, just let your teammates know during the planning phase that you don't know exactly what to do and they can probably assign you some battle positions and keep an eye on you during the fight. We'll move mountains to help a guy who asks questions and listens to the answers. :thumbup:

Have fun, and good luck.

[SgtSjo]

Another good thing to do is to come online with us and we would take you through different routines to put you on the right tracks to developpe your own style and to learn Combined Arms , or Teamwork .

Cheers . :3starSK:

I wish I could but being situated in Thailand, with a slow modem connection, online gaming isn't an option :-(

BTW, how do you get those nice small graphics under your name here in this forum? I tried to upload one at "Avatar Uploads" but it doesn't show.

Sgt Sjo

[Lone*star49]

Another good thing to do is to come online with us and we would take you through different routines to put you on the right tracks to developpe your own style and to learn Combined Arms , or Teamwork .

Cheers . :3starSK:

I wish I could but being situated in Thailand, with a slow modem connection, online gaming isn't an option :-(

:arrow: BTW, how do you get those nice small graphics under your name here in this forum? I tried to upload one at "Avatar Uploads" but it doesn't show.

Sgt Sjo
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:arrow: I know ya have to make your avatar into an jgp first, then it must be no bigger than 100 or 50kb, something like that.. Maybe chk the FAQ over in left column under +Game Info.. clik on the +, otherwise, your answer will come soon by someone with exact method to do that..


LS

[Bluewings]

SgtSjo : I wish I could but being situated in Thailand, with a slow modem connection, online gaming isn't an option

Irrelevant .

I have been on 56k playing Unreal Tournament and SteelBeasts and it was ok . We could setup small games just for you to minimize the lag .
Online experience is priceless .
Try . :wink:

Cheers . :3starSK:

[SgtSjo]

C. Duck down behind a ridge after I fire, so then I dont get wasted waiting for the loader to do his job.

That's another thing that I find unrealistic. In the crews I've worked with/trained the loader was able to slam a 105 mm into the breech in less then half the time it takes in the game. It just takes too long to reload.

Sgt Sjo

[Bluewings]

Reloading a modern MBT takes from 4 secs (fast loader/autoloader) to 7 secs (slow loader/Autoloader) .

IE : The Challenger II can fire every 8-9 secs , Leclerc every 6-7 secs , etc ...

Cheers . :3starSK:

[Ssnake]

C. Duck down behind a ridge after I fire, so then I dont get wasted waiting for the loader to do his job.

That's another thing that I find unrealistic. In the crews I've worked with/trained the loader was able to slam a 105 mm into the breech in less then half the time it takes in the game. It just takes too long to reload.
Well, if you are familiar with 105mm rounds, then you are probably right insofar as safety regulations do not require the loader to stand with empty arms near the gun. With semi-combustible cartridges however, an ejected case stub may bounce around, collide with the cartridge in the loader's arms, and set it on fire. Therefore the loader must not have a round ready, but wait for the gun recoil before initiating the reloading procedure.
Open ammo seal door, unlock a round from the rack, pull it out, turn around, shove it in (and eventually index the ammo type, and arm the gun).
For all that, four to six seconds are realistic.

[Hell_Hound]

The rounds reloading in the game are big 120mm bastards, too - wait for SBPro and the Leopard 1, then pull out your stopwatch and see what you think. :)

[SgtSjo]

The rounds reloading in the game are big 120mm bastards, too - wait for SBPro and the Leopard 1, then pull out your stopwatch and see what you think. :)

Yeah. I see what you mean. It was a "few" years since I served in the armoured forces myself. Memories ........ :-)
It did though seem to be a lot easier then. "Emty hans while the gun was recoiling"? No way. Showe in a new one as fast as possible.

Sgt Sjo