Smoke grenades

[2113]

Does anyone know if its possible to fire just one side of the smoke grenades in the leopard in sb? Or do you have to fire all grenades at the same time?
And will hep or hesh be used in sbpro?

-2113-

[Homer]

No, it is not possible.

[Hell_Hound]

Leopard 1s in SB Pro can carry HESH.

[Wahrborg]

HESH, as in High Expolosive Squash Head? Or is that somekind of a smoke grenade i have not yet heard of?

[TankHunter]

HESH, as in High Expolosive Squash Head? Or is that somekind of a smoke grenade i have not yet heard of?

IIRC HEST is High Explosive Squash Head. Oh, what is so special about HESH?

[dejawolf]

hesh is extremely efficient against light vehicles and infantry.
and it blows big holes in structures.

[Hell_Hound]

It's vicious against non-spaced armor. The plastic explosive "pancakes" against the armor plate and then detonates, generating a shockwave that travels right through the steel. When that shock gets to the inside face of the plate, it blasts off scab-shaped pieces of metal, switches, lights, fragments of paint, and so forth, shredding the crew.

I saw a target plate that was hit by a 105mm HESH round. The plate was about three inches thick, and on the back side an area about the same as a (big) garbage can lid was blasted away; in some places half an inch of the metal was gone. Being behind that plate would have been much worse than a point-blank hit from a shotgun.

Minor problem, it produces "silent" kills since the damage is all internal.

Minor problem, for a long time all HESH rounds were spin-armed, meaning they required a rifled barrel, which is why Challenger has one.

Major problem, if HESH hits spaced armor the fragments are blasted off the outer plate and ping off the inner plate. Totally useless.

They keep HESH around because it does catastrophic damage (better than HEAT) to APCs and soft targets like that, and the directed-shockwave effect also does nasty things to trenches and concrete bunkers.

[TopKick]

Minor problem, it produces "silent" kills since the damage is all internal

HEP and HESH produces one hell of a loud thunderclap explosion and consusion when it hits. I fired a HEP round once at an old tank turret on Table VIII in Graf at 1800 meters and it sounded like a cannon had went off ten feet away. Man was it loud. You definately know when you get a solid hit.

[Hell_Hound]

Of course, I should have said mostly internal.

Just wanted to make the point that on the outside, the just-hit tank might have nothing more than a black scorch mark on the plating, while inside the tank looks like the floor of a slaughterhouse.

[TopKick]

Yes, I know you meant not a lot of visible external damage. I think some tanks have spall liners to help contain internal damage and carnage.

[dejawolf]

T-72 actually seems to have something that looks like spall liners clad everywhere inside the turret. might be something else too, like anti-radiation cladding.
those silly russians.

[Ssnake]

In SB1, we simplified things so that the Leopards can fire four groups of four smoke grenades. In SB Pro, at least the Leo 2A5 can fire two groups of four smoke volleys, and eight individual HE-fragmentation grenades for close defense/soft targets behind cover. Plus, you get the option to refill the grenade launchers once.
:)

[Wahrborg]

The question has most probably been up before but, is that Galix smoke (or equal)?

[Bluewings]

Galix is on Leclerc , but I don 't remember if it 's the same system on the Leo ... :roll:

Cheers . :3starSK:

[Wahrborg]

We have it on the strv122 and CV90 as well, but i cant find any good site about the 2A5DK on the net, so i dont know?

[Homer]

Danish Army Vehicles Homepage (http://www.armyvehicles.dk/index.htm)

Not the greatest site but it's better than what you got :wink:

[stuart666]

T-72 actually seems to have something that looks like spall liners clad everywhere inside the turret. might be something else too, like anti-radiation cladding.
those silly russians.

Anti Radiation cladding I gather(think its got some kind of resin impregnated with lead). Even the export ones have it fitted bizarrely, even though they apparently have some part of the NBC kit removed. :roll:

Agreed, very silly. :wink:

[Ssnake]

Not only Galix has multispectral smoke, there are also smoke grenades from Diehl (I think) that blind thermal imagers as well. They are available for the Danish Army as well. We haven't implemented this yet however, so the smoke in SB Pro will still be conventional for a while.

[Trekker]

T-72 actually seems to have something that looks like spall liners clad everywhere inside the turret. might be something else too, like anti-radiation cladding.
those silly russians.

That might be one of the reason why the majority of births in russia is boys. Anyone who served in a russian vehicle will never have girls. Ooh and leadpaint won't make you a genetic superhero.. :lol:

[Ssnake]

My name is Troy McClure. You know me from other educational movies like "Lead Paint - Delicious but Deadly", and "Mommy, What's Wrong With That Man's Face?"