FAV TANK/WAR MOVIE ??

[Panzer8]

Hey its me Panzer8 hows it going guys....anyway the subject is whats your fav war movies?? Mine are BlackhawkDown and U571. Have fun posting lol :cool:




Killing tanks is my business and business is good...

[brazen]

favourite war movies?

hard to say.

i can say there were particular scenes that have stuck with me from several movies.

the scene in 'thin red line' where the japanese position is over run, and the hilltop taken. the whole sequence gives me a terrible mental picture of what it was like for my grandfather, and many of the american soldiers that went straight to guadalcanal from here.

also there is a german movie called stalingrad, made by the makers of das boot. in it there are a number of horribly violent urban warfare scenes. and you get a real sense of the futility of germany's war. the movie is about a group of friends and opens with them on leave in italy... sitting on the beach. what a difference 6 months makes.

i was actually surprised by a lot of what happened in 'we were soldiers' the battle scenes gave a good impression of the environment of the battle. throughout the film you were aware of the perimiter of the force, the position of the units that were being talked about, and how thinly they were spread... therefore whenever orders were issued it was easy to follow them as they were carried out. it was filmed with a broad camera lense that gave you the impression that you were part of the scene. some of the film was utter rubbish, but the action scenes were for the most part believable. especially when one leutenant and his group runs off after a single nva scout... good thinking soldier... run off blindly into the forest with your whole platoon in tow.

one of the things that often gets lost in a cinema translation is the scale and makeup of a battlefield. thus tactical decisions by the characters have to be believed rather than understood.

oh and i must add there are a couple of breathtaking helecopter sweeps over the entire landing at saipan in windtalkers. from the charging soldiers all the way up to the well dug in japanese. incredible and breathtaking to see on a large screen. appart from that it was crap john woo ultra violence. hated the movie appart from the big camera sweeps.

[Panzer8]

Very well said brazen, good points too. Anyway i got to start doing my work cuz my teacher is looking at me werid :casstet: hahah





Killing tanks is my business and business is good...

[Brad_Edmondson]

The only decent tank movie in my books is The Beast.

For war movies I'd put the Finnish film Winter War in top place. Das Boot is great too. Blackhawk Down was good, but unlike the book didn't tell the story from both sides very well. I love Battle of Britain too. Actually, anything with warbirds in it, even if horribly bad, I'll sit through and watch ;)

I thought We Were Solidiers showed the best demonstration of air power I've seen on film. Very well directed too, one of the rare films to paint a battle across a wide canvas and not lose the audience in the action.

Sam Shepherd stole the show in evrey scene he was in:

"Good morning, Sergeant!"
"What are you, some sort of a god damn meteorologist?!"

LMAO! :D

[Lone*star49]

...

I have to agree with Brad, "The Beast" is my favorite..

However, my favorite "story" of a tank crew, was a story of 3 tankers on manuevers in the area around the "little Big Horn".. and they heard yells and saw dust flying .. and when they scouted, they saw Custer being attacked by the Siox.. they returned to the tank (Stuart light tank) and got their rifles and went in to help.. their Co and Xo came looking for them and never found them, they had dissappeared.. but when they got to the Custer Memorial Site, they started reading the names of the dead soldiers, and the three that where missing from the tank.. their exact names and ranks.. were on the Memorial..

Yes.. they, and I had too, been in " The Twilight Zone.." ;)

[9erRed]

Greetings all,

ref. for ghost (Brad)
The movie "We Were Soldiers" and the ref. you used for the "Sgt.major" is as real as it get's for a vetern of what that characters past history is stated as. The new and young Lt's and officers trying to get a bit friendler with the sgtMajor is all too normal and his (sgtMajor's) reaction is funny but real. I remember a few master warrent officers (Sgtmajor) that were exectally the same. " If you pissed them off, your career immedially CHANGED ".

I personnally enjoyed that movie greatly, and there were a few scene's that brought a tear and memories to mind. (laugh and cry type of movie) But I don't know if it's the same for non military or past military viewers, or if they (viewers) would "get" all the little nuances of the character's protrayed. And remember that the story line is from "Real" events that really happened, from real people. (also I remember that it was the "first" use of Air Mobile Troops.)

"good morning SgtMajor"
" WHO MADE YOU THE GODDAM WEATHERMAN."
Laughed and laughed and almost choked and spit my coffee out.!!

I still give this movie a good " Thumb's Up ", and you are advised to watch the last bit of the video (after the movie) for info, history and story line of the real event.

All for now ..... 9erRed ..... out

[ChazFarote]

"The Beast" hands down

-I also like "Platoon" - "I got a bad feeling about this one, Bob"
-Battleground
-There's an old movie with Jack Palance I liked, he plays a LT and has interior problems with his CO, so he gets sent on crappy missions and things like that, but I forgot the name, it's black and white.
-Black Hawk Down
-We Were Soldiers (the first time I saw it I didn't really care for it, but after reading the book I love this film)
-Battle of the Bulge
-Kellys Heroes

Sooooo many! But again, The Beast is the best Tanker movie.

[dejawolf]

well, not really a tanker movie, "full metal jacket" but it's got some m60's in there.
really great pic of the vietnam war..
and stalingrad was great too.

[112TYR]

Band of Brothers comes to mind....I remember seeing a scene where an infantry sergeant spots a well hidden Tiger in a town, and approaches a british tank coloumn headed straight into its paws to warn the plt leader. He can't see it and replies; "Well if I can't see him, I can't bloody shoot him, now can I?" The outcome is predictable enough...

[Panzer8]

Yes i forgot one Kellys Heroes i love that one thanks for reminding me ChazFarote......to bad they dont show it to much anymore :(

[MadMax17]

All great movies. "A Bridge Too Far" and "Gettysburg" are also great ones. An older one, "Zulu" is also on my list.

In reference to "We Were Soldiers," SGM Plumley is played by Sam Elliot.

"Good Morning SGM"
"How do you know what kind of God damn day it is?!?"

"Beatiful Morning SGM"
"What are you, the fucking weather man now?!?"

"Any of you sons of bitches calls me grandpa... I'll kill ya!"

God I love that movie.

[Dagger]

1) Kellys Heroes
2) Saving Privet Ryan
3)A Bridge Too Far
4)The Beast
5)To Hell and Back
I like "wind walker" too....i don't like it when movies use old M47's(Patton,Battle of the Bulge,To Hell and Back to name afew) as German Armor. I love it when they find the real thing like in "A Bridge Too Far"..man were did they find all those WW2 German AFV's?

now for some corrections: LS i know of that" The Twilight Zone" you're talking about,but sorry that was a M5A1 "Stuart" light tank.
dejawolf, those weren't "m60's" in "full metal jacket" but M41 "walkerbulldog's".

the tiger's in "Saving Privet Ryan" are T-34/85 made to look like Tiger I, as were the Tiger's in "Kelly's Heros", the sherman ..well here read this:
http://web.inter.nl.net/users/spoelstra/g104/yu.htm

[dejawolf]

dagger wrote:
"now for some corrections: LS i know of that" The Twilight Zone" you're talking about,but sorry that was a M5A1 "Stuart" light tank.
dejawolf, those weren't "m60's" in "full metal jacket" but M41 "walkerbulldog's".""

well, i have seen very little of the american tanks before the m1.. i'll read into it. :)

[brazen]

that episode of band of brothers with the hidden tiger was supposed to be covering operation market garden. it was a well filmed episode. but i think it failed to convey anything at all about the actual operation.

theres a book called 'it never snows in september' which is made up of german narratives of the campaign. and an impressive number of photographs from the german lines... thanks to a german panzer loader being a camera enthusiast.

there are some amazing passages about the campaign. particularaly with the iraq crisis in mind theres one passage where a jagdpanther broke through american supply lines. it proceded to drive down the collum of banked up trucks and fire at will for several hours. it showed the true weakness of airborn troops when it comes to fighting heavy mechanised units in numbers. all it took was one vehicle to halt the supply convoy, and halt the entire offensive for several hours.

i would recomend that anybody who is interested in the history of armoured vehicles track down this book. it provides an amazing first hand insight as to what its like to stare down the barrel of massive american superiority.

[Wahrborg]

1: Platoon
2: Saving Private Ryan
3: Hamburger Hill :P (DVD was set on repeat for i think 6 months at troophouse lol)
4: Unknown soldier (film about the finnish winter war. The film isnt that great but i deeply recomend the book, one of the best ive ever read)

[Lone*star49]

dagger wrote:
"now for some corrections: LS i know of that" The Twilight Zone" you're talking about,but sorry that was a M5A1 "Stuart" light tank.


Thanks Dagger.. will make the proper change.. LS :casstet:

[RnR]

Got "The Beast" the other day at wally world for $5.88 - cringed the whole movie - the screenwriter never served in the military is my guess -I mean what tank commander lets his whole crew hang out OUTSIDE the tank at night building campfires and such while lost in hostile territory with guerilla fighters all around? Other than all those kind of "suspension of dispbelief" destroyers it was still a fun movie to watch.

PS I just got in PINK FLAMINGOS in the mail - gonna spring it on the wife! hahahaha

Cheers all - oh my favorite war flicks are Saving Pvt Ryan. Cross of Iron, and the original All Quiet on the Western Front

[wdboyd]

Salutations,

"Battle Of The Bulge"
"Patton"
"Tora Tora Tora"
"Saving Private Ryan"
"Raid On Rommel"
"Gettysburg"
"A Bridge Too Far"
"Das Boot"
"We Were Soldiers"

:D

[ironchefamerican]

A bridge too Far, best war movie of all time.
Saving Private Ryan and Black Hawk Down running tied for second
and the Beast in third.

[ShotMagnet]

1) Band of Brothers
2) Saving Private Ryan
3) We Were Soldiers
4) Zulu
5) Tora! Tora! Tora!
6) Battle Of Britain


Favorite quote from We Were Soldiers "Kinda makes you wish you'd gone into submarines..."

Shot

[Kingtiger]

that episode of band of brothers with the hidden tiger was supposed to be covering operation market garden. it was a well filmed episode. but i think it failed to convey anything at all about the actual operation.

theres a book called 'it never snows in september' which is made up of german narratives of the campaign. and an impressive number of photographs from the german lines... thanks to a german panzer loader being a camera enthusiast.

there are some amazing passages about the campaign. particularaly with the iraq crisis in mind theres one passage where a jagdpanther broke through american supply lines. it proceded to drive down the collum of banked up trucks and fire at will for several hours. it showed the true weakness of airborn troops when it comes to fighting heavy mechanised units in numbers. all it took was one vehicle to halt the supply convoy, and halt the entire offensive for several hours.

i would recomend that anybody who is interested in the history of armoured vehicles track down this book. it provides an amazing first hand insight as to what its like to stare down the barrel of massive american superiority.

whos the author of that book? and how old is it??

thankz!

KT

[brazen]

it never snows in september, by nick kershaw
Publisher: Hippocrene Books; (November 1994)
ISBN: 0711021678

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1885119313.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

amazon.com had it... http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1885119313/qid=1048240545/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/102-2863118-5276167?v=glance&s=books

[kniffo]

Well,

"We were Soldiers", because it shows perfectly the mood before going into a battle.

I like the thought of being the first at the battlefield and leave it as the last one without leaving one of my soldiers there. Perhaps this is a bit too idialistic, but the men are the most important ressource, I have and the are human beings. They are friends, brothers - especially in battle...
Ah yes, the commander is well skilled because he saw the situation with the enemy's eye... and this is a rare skill. OK, its a movie after all :)

"Saving Private Ryan" is not bad, very nice sequence at the start of the movie.

"Apocalypse Now Redux" is WELL DONE!

Greetings,
Kniffo

[JayMan]

Hi guys

Once upon a long time ago, I saw a film about a russian crew lost with their T-72 in the afgan desert but do not remember at all the title, does it ring a bell to someone?

[brazen]

Hi guys

Once upon a long time ago, I saw a film about a russian crew lost with their T-72 in the afgan desert but do not remember at all the title, does it ring a bell to someone?



oh my god. what is that film called... they have it in my local dvd rental...

[JayMan]

Could it be the beast?

[Ssnake]

Hi guys

Once upon a long time ago, I saw a film about a russian crew lost with their T-72 in the afgan desert but do not remember at all the title, does it ring a bell to someone?

The Beast. Actually it's a T-55, but that's nit picking.

[rump]

The Beast. Actually it's a T-55, but that's nit picking.

:P More nit picking; wasn't it a T-54? I'm pretty sure that it's callsign had T54 in it.
The military advisor for The Beast was Capt. Dale Dye, who also did Saving Private Ryan (and more).

Rump

[Rockape]

A short list of some of my favourit's....

All Quiet on the Western Front (1930)
Paths of Glory (1957)
The Longest Day (1962)
The Long Day's Dying (1968)
A Bridge Too Far (1977)
Cross of Iron (1977)
Das Boot (1981)
Stalingrad (1993)
Saving Private Ryan (1998)
Black Hawn Down (2001)
We Were Soldiers (2002)

[JayMan]

So I'm happy because I saw the movie that everybody was talking aout without knowing it !!!!!!

[RnR]

A Black Hawn Down (2001)


Man that movie gave me evil thoughts I didnt know I had grrr.....

[RIK]

Hiya,
Several good movies out there...

A couple that have been mentioned already are 'Stalingrad' and 'We Were Soldiers.' Both great movies, and both, in their way, amazingly well-handled 'anti-war' war movies. Similar to both Platoon and Full Metal Jacket in that regard. The whole series of 'Band of Brothers' was great as well. I havea great uncle who was in the 101st airborne and jumped into Normandy. He watched the series too. When i asked him if they got the D-Day drop right - the plane flight and night drop - he said 'exactly.'

Another one that's tremendous, and that I highly recommend, but sometimes is hard to find is 'A Midnight Clear' which is about a rifle squad in the Ardennes during the Battle of the Bulge.

A couple from a little farther afield (and not necessarily 'war movies' per se) that are worth seeking out (IMHO):

'Breaker Morant' - British soldiers in South Africa during the Boer War. Morant's soliloquy on 'Law .303' (i.e., the Enfield .303) is great.

'The Duelists' - The story, told over several years, of two French Cavalry officers in Napolean's army who fight a series of duels. Harvey Keitel is outstanding.

'Savior' - Great movie that saw limited release - a little too smart and too brutal for wider release. Dennis Quaid plays a former French Foreign Legionairre-turned-mercenary in the former Yugoslavia. A very hard movie to watch, but a great film.

'Utu' - Set in New Zealand, and tells the story of a Maori rebellion against the British in the 1800s.

Finally (and definitely no tanks in this one ;) ) Kenneth Brannagh's 'Henry V' Great movie.

Cheers,
RK

[Brad_Edmondson]

Got "The Beast" the other day at wally world for $5.88 - cringed the whole movie - the screenwriter never served in the military is my guess

Based on a stage play called Nanawate. Dramatic license for scenes like that, hard to develop the subplots between characters if they're all cooped up inside the tank all the time.

[Captain_Thunder]

I'm waiting on my new DVDs to arrive, "We Wer Soldiers" and "Black Hawk Down".

I have "Winter War" and "Stalingrad". Both are excellent movies.

Winter War is a bit hard to follow unless you speak the language. Keeping track of things and reading the subtitles makes the film a bit of a chore to watch. The Finn language isn't easy to follow if you are a native english speaker. The movie is well acted though and the action scenes are very good. Well worth renting at least if not owning.

Stalingrad is a excellent follow-on to its better known cousin Das Boot. The managed to recapture the same small-unit feel that you had in Das Boot. The movie was well acted and the situations the squad of Germans soldiers found themselves in were very engrossing. If you liked Das Boot, you'll like Stalingrad.

I'm a war movie buff. I have so many favorites the list would go on and on. Besides all the recent ones, the two above, Saving Private Ryan, Enemy at the Gates, etc., I love many of the truly old classic war movies from the 40s, 50s, 60s, and 70s.

A short list of my favorites would include:

Battleground
They Were Expendable
Midway
Guadalcanal
Go for Broke!
The Cruel Sea
One of our Aircraft is Missing
The Dambusters
12 O'Clock High
Command Decision
Run Silent Run Deep
Pork Chop Hill
The Bridges at Toko Ri
The Hunters
Men at War
In Harm's Way
Battle of the Bulge
Patton
Kelly's Heroes
Guns of Navarone
The War Lover
Tora! Tora! Tora!

And those are just the one's I can think of on short notice.

I started recording many of these off TV back in 1978 when I bought my first VCR. I've got it up to about 150 6-hour tapes of commercial free movies and miltary documentaries and programs of all types. I only record on a rare occasion now, and have started on a DVD collection.