I dont understand the turret design in LEOII

[netjens]

The turret on the LEOII look like a arrow, I mean, what happends if the round hit downlide of the turret, it will then slide where the turret is connected to the tank and go off, why don deflect the round upward instead, like on the M1A1
Jens

[dejawolf]

the bullet will penetrate, but it won't go as deep as with the flat front of the abrams.
the reason is because there is a small amount of rebound, but it rebounds into the armour.
and btw sabots don't explode.

see, you learned something now ;)
now go read the documentation that came with steel beasts.

[netjens]

hmmmmmm Well I know sabot dont explode, but, lets say that the sabot hit the underside of the sloping (ehh spelling error?) armour, and then it hit where the turret is attached, then it penetrates.....?
:o

[Ivan_996]

I think that shot trap was corrected in the newer versions of the Leo.

[dejawolf]

ooh, the famed turret ring..
well, the new arrowhead shape of the leopard 2a5 turret is actually an extra slab of metal in front of the older armour.... :D
that means the new armour make the turret front of the 2a5 at least twice as mighty as that of the leo2a4. i think that also means the turret front is impenetrable to anything.
and anyway, the leo2 is designed to stay turret down. so the turret ring, and the hull won't be visible, and hard to hit. the swedish didn't think this was a good idea, so they added a lot of armour to the hull front and turret top, and named it strv 122.

[12Alfa]

I may be wrong (was once before hehehh) but the needed engery to penetrate the armour would be lost on the impact to the first impact and lost on the richote into the lower hull making the sabot non-effective.


12Alfa
lost but makin good time

[Mpat120]

Actualy the energy loss depends on the angle of impact, and weather or not the rod snaps under the pressure of the rebound(think of skiping a rock on a pond). If the angle is flat enough the round may either snap under the pressure or carry lots of energy and penetrate, though im not gona get into the physics of the monster.

[Ssnake]

It is important to realize that the wedge is not massive, but hollow with a few additional plates. They are designed to inflict a yaw momentum on penetrating sabots which may either break them up, or make them hit the underlying Leo 2A4 box shape armor not straight on but with a slant of two or three degrees which is enough to reduce the penetrating power of modern sabots to a level that the old armor can still handle.

Large caliber sabots will penetrate into the wedge armor, and not be deflected by it into the turret ring. The wegde is no classic shot trap as was with the Panther A. The only sabots that actually might get deflected into the turret ring (provided that they hit the underside which is less likely, but admittedly possible) are medium caliber rounds. The turret ring has an additional reinforment ring that makes it safe against these weaker rounds.
Heat rounds will go off when the tip of the round hits the surface of the armor, and do not delay the fusing. Which means, even if they were deflected, they explode before the jet can actually be directed against the upper hull or the turret ring.