artillery adjustment

[clenton1]

Can you actually see the smoke to adjust artillery to the target? if you can then you can sells this to Ft. Sill Artillery School to teach FO's.

[Hackworth]

Ah 13F... I only wish we could get the US Army to buy it... Let's daydream... does that mean we could get the BFV-FO-thingy? Ooooo then I could start my clamore for artillery peices again...

Hey... I live in Dallas :mrgreen: Howdy.

[MAJ_Fubar]

Oh yes, the B-FIST would be lovely... I doubt we'll ever see arty pieces in game, though they would be handy for "raid" type missions. I'd personally be happy with some M-1064 Mortar Carriers, but the is daydreaming isn't it. :)

[flyboy]

I,d rather an As-90 Braveheart.

[RecceDG]

At a recent exercise, I was in command of a troop-sized convoy escort, and I had attached to me a 105mm towed howitzer.

When I asked just what the hell I was supposed to do with THAT, I was informed that they were quite capable of firing HESH and canister over open sights, and took less than 2 min to get their gun into action.

So what the hell - I put them into the reserve group, and told them that if we got into a static fight, I'd call them forward to do their thing.

I felt a little like Frederick the Great with my artillery train. :D

Now you know what would be cool? Imagine if that 105 was mounted in some sort of turret-like device, so it could be fired without having to drop the gun first. And imagine - I'm just blue-skying here; thinking out loud - imagine if it were mounted on some sort of armoured chassis, with tracks, so it could go, like, anywhere. Wouldn't that be cool? I'm suprised noby else has ever thought of this.....

DG

[ShotMagnet]

I think the operant paradigm here is 'standardization'. True, an SP 105 would be coolness-incarnate, but in the US Army they do the same thing with 155s, and if they don't have canister or HESH capacity, they have a multitude of fixed- and rotary-wing aircraft on-call which will do nicely in the same role.

Too, SPA isn't supposed to get so close to tanks and infantry that it needs to have HESH and canister on hand, nor let the situation degenerate into an 'open sight' contest. SPA generally loses in a stand-up, direct-fire fight.


Shot

[RecceDG]

Hey ShotMagnet, you might want to check the boresight on your sarcasm detector..... It seems to have missed all after "You know what would be cool?"

DG

[ShotMagnet]

I didn't.


Shot

[clenton1]

Gentleman, the anti-tank ablity of a m-109 is by kentic energy. you place one round with shipping plug in the chamber with largest charge, depress the tube and skip the round into the tank. 200 pounds of steel hitting any tank will give a bad headache if not flip it over. But you only get one shot. When I was attached to cav unit, I was fist team leader mangering all indirect assest from air strikes, naval gun fire, MRlS, Mortars, and Field Artillery. A field commander should never worry about indirect assest just tell the fist leader destory it and rest is history. In fact, a good fist leader would be doing that before the commander says something.

clenton1
Artillery the King of Battle

[Ssnake]

Let's see... with a max muzzle velocity of... 800m/s?
that's 100kg x 800m/s = 80,000 kg*m/s

A T-72 moving at 15km/h has an impulse of...
42,000kg x 4.16m/s = 175,000 kg*m/s

So an 155mm HE shell has at best an impulse of a tank crawling at walking speed. How's that supposed to flip a tank over?

[RogueSnake79]

High Explosive is a factor.

[Ssnake]

I don't doubt that it can damage a tank, and probably knock out old ones too, but flipping them over sounds like an urban legend or its equivalent in the army world.