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oscar19681
11-01-2006, 04:08 PM
is there a map for this? i want to create the C.A.T Competition for multiplayer would be interessting for co/op would this be possible?

oscar19681
11-01-2006, 11:15 PM
You guys dont know what i,m talking about? check this out

http://www.3ad.com/history/cold.war/cat.index.htm

12Alfa
11-02-2006, 04:57 AM
I have been thinking about this for about 5 years now. I have all the data, rule book and of course the map.:luxhello:
It might be a good time now that we have the Leo1's to get a team together to start some planing for such a event to be held yearly with each nation sending a team(s). Just not the french!!!:cul: (JK):remybussi:

Lets think about this, and those who are willing to join in a developing team give me a shout.(e-mail)

This to be done right will take some time and people.:Crash:

PS this is not going to be held tomarrow, its gona take a while............

Vati
11-02-2006, 10:01 PM
It would be nice indeed. However limitation of SBP PE MP limit of max # prevents it do be done in greater number than tank section :frown:

12Alfa
11-03-2006, 05:13 PM
It would be nice indeed. However limitation of SBP PE MP limit of max # prevents it do be done in greater number than tank section :frown:

We would need Seans help for sure.

Vati
11-03-2006, 09:30 PM
Yep...

However, as been said, I think such event for SBP would be great.
Could you describe a bit what kind of help are you looking at to get this baby moving?

12Alfa
11-04-2006, 05:51 AM
Yep...

However, as been said, I think such event for SBP would be great.
Could you describe a bit what kind of help are you looking at to get this baby moving?

I forsee the biggest help will be needed in the targets and the scoring. And of course the umpires.
We could let the ai run the targets and script the scoring, however to be fair I think this should be done by us the players. By players I meen the range staff, not the troop/ptl on the firing line.
The serials would be set, and marked on time and ammo used.We would need the staff to hold the same serial for each team, say one serial every weekend.
At he end of all the serials we would post the serials scores and the overall score.
I have the rule book that was used to hold the real event, and none of the rules seem that hard to reproduce in SB Pro Pe. Most of the rules can be used, a few being very hard to put into the sim and could be left out.

There is the matter of challenging the serial as in real life, this would be baised on a few factors and the umpires. The challenging is pretty stright forward and would be stated a the start.

I'll give it a look see, and come up with the minium staff required. Then we can take a look at the procedures that would work for the sim and do a test run.
Give me a few weeks after 1st Clash to start on yet another SB project.

oscar19681
11-25-2006, 04:24 PM
Hey kinda silent around this thing . Whats the word?

KiwiXO
12-21-2006, 12:17 AM
Hello 12Alfa, How did the CAT go? Question(s): Would you include the Driver in the Crew,or just the Crew Comd and Gunner? Is it static (you could have targets "spawn" and "Remove killed" when hit to appear like "pop-up/disappearing" targets) or is it a "Battle Run"? Thank you for your time and Seasons Greetings!
Yours simcerely,
KiwiXO
MOONBEAM

12Alfa
12-21-2006, 04:31 AM
Hello 12Alfa, How did the CAT go? Question(s): Would you include the Driver in the Crew,or just the Crew Comd and Gunner? Is it static (you could have targets "spawn" and "Remove killed" when hit to appear like "pop-up/disappearing" targets) or is it a "Battle Run"? Thank you for your time and Seasons Greetings!
Yours simcerely,
KiwiXO
MOONBEAM

Drivers yes.
Trgs could be left on range to add to the confusion, we could go either way on this.
The CAT was both static and battle runs for each team.

Im gettin a team together in Jan to start the planing and a couple of run throughs. We in the 1ST CAD have done a drill that is very close to the CAT so we have some ground work done allready.

As for the map I would like to start in Germany and follow on with different units hosting their ranges, if this ok by all.

More in Jan.

Happy seasons wishes to all/

Eisenschwein
12-21-2006, 09:17 AM
The Maps to use are:

1983 --> Bergen Hohne Schießbahn 9

1985 --> Bergen Hohne Schießbahn 9

1987 --> Grafenwöhr Schießbahn 301

1989 --> Bergen Hohne Schießbahn 9

1991 --> Grafenwöhr Schießbahn 301

1993 --> ??????

If you need something..... ???

http://www.daseisenschwein.de/assets/images/db_images/db_cat_trophy2.jpg

oscar19681
12-22-2006, 01:10 AM
I would love to see what these ranges look like .

Eisenschwein
12-23-2006, 08:46 AM
This is the 9 in Bergen Hohne (hope it work)

http://maps.google.de/maps?f=q&hl=de&q=Bergen+Hohne&sll=49.692286,11.892014&sspn=0.169012,0.43396&ie=UTF8&z=17&ll=52.796923,9.709575&spn=0.004937,0.013561&t=k&om=1

oscar19681
01-08-2007, 06:09 PM
Maybe we should try to find some 3-d images of these ranges . But they are very scarce because i cant find more then 1

Eisenschwein
01-08-2007, 06:52 PM
This is the "9" in Bergen

http://www.daseisenschwein.de/assets/images/db_images/db_1992_101.jpg

http://www.daseisenschwein.de/assets/images/db_images/db_1992_111.jpg

http://www.daseisenschwein.de/assets/images/db_images/db_1992_121.jpg

http://www.daseisenschwein.de/assets/images/db_images/db_1992_151.jpg

And what about this:

http://www.3ad.com/history/cold.war/cat.index.htm

http://www.43tankbataljon.nl/43-CAT-Overzicht/1987/43-CAT-1987.html

12Alfa
01-08-2007, 07:37 PM
[QUOTE=Eisenschwein;127146]This is the "9" in Bergen


And what about this:

Great pics!!
Tanks:luxhello:

oscar19681
01-10-2007, 07:09 PM
Well we can actually create the map any vollenteers?

Eisenschwein
01-10-2007, 09:05 PM
Here we go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZELHvskq798&mode=related&search=

oscar19681
01-10-2007, 09:52 PM
Oke now give me a cat mission and lets play online . No seriously is it just you and me who want a cat mission how could this be done . I can make good scenarios, But i,m not that good with triggers and scoring and not at al with the way scoring was done with cat . I would love to replicate the dutch when they won the cat . And is this map in the downloads section by any chance? or missions ? The movie,s look fucking great man you really working on this man? You seemed to play only with german players but we should really form international teams and see who wins .

oscar19681
01-18-2007, 07:45 AM
Hello ? eisenswein ? Could you please tell me where i can get this 9 in Bergen Hohne map ?

Kama
01-18-2007, 03:18 PM
here the terrain map:
http://www.steelbeasts.com/Downloads/p13_sectionid/253/p13_fileid/1092

and here the height map:
http://www.steelbeasts.com/Downloads/p13_sectionid/252/p13_fileid/1093


greetz Kama

oscar19681
01-20-2007, 08:42 AM
Oke where do i put the files exaclty?

Kama
01-20-2007, 03:14 PM
put the files in your "C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\All Users\Anwendungsdaten\eSim Games\Steel Beasts\maps\height and C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\All Users\Anwendungsdaten\eSim Games\Steel Beasts\maps\terrain" folders.

Note: look for the exact folders (All Users!!!)

Edit: if you cant find the folder do a windows search and look for *.hgt and *.ter files...
it will lead you to the right directory

greetz Kama

DemolitionMan
04-29-2007, 06:06 PM
Perhaps you guys need some inspiration? Check out this video about CAT 1987: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3672520080577958593

Tacbat
04-29-2007, 09:10 PM
Who won the top platoon award? I missed it the first five times...

DemolitionMan
04-29-2007, 11:50 PM
1st Plt, D Co, 4-8 Cav, 3AD for CENTAG.
1st Plt, C Co, 43rd Tank Btl (NL) for NORTHAG.

oscar19681
08-30-2007, 05:12 PM
I made something losely based on CAT now i have 3 ranges each country with there own range on the bergen map. each range has over 14 targets and 2 tanks for bleu and own country. only i dont know how to do the scoring .