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ShoutingDog
02-08-2007, 04:03 AM
Got SB Pro PE Monday and have been spending 3 or 4 hours each evening since learning it - M1 tutorials. Finally got to the point tonight where I wanted to jump into a single player mission.

:shocked: But there aren't any SP M1 missions, or Bradley. All missions are LEO or other based stuff.

Did something maybe get left off the CD I got?

Where's all the American missions?

RENEGADE-623
02-08-2007, 05:54 AM
unfortunately, the scenerio designers on the beta team all prefered leos and other vehicles so they made leo scenerios and not m1 or bradley scenerios. I felt same way. However there are plenty of m1/bradley scenerios in the downlad section, or do what I also did, edited the scenerios that came with it to make them have bradleys and M1's.

Volcano
02-08-2007, 08:50 PM
Look in the classics folder and you will find some M1 scenarios that I made in the past (Deliberate Assault 01 & 02). Personally, I only make M1 scenarios but unfortunately I only had the time to bring over those two from SB1, before SB Pro PE was released.

However, if you want nothing but M1 scenarios, it is a simple matter of just going into the scenario editor and loading *any* scenario and changing the vehicle types to whatever you want to use. Just load a scenario, go to a unit, right click on it and select "Set unit type >". The only problem is that you will end up with three vehicle M1 platoons if it was formerly a Leo platoon.

Lone*star49
02-08-2007, 09:28 PM
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~ Space for rent ~

Lone*star49
02-08-2007, 09:31 PM
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Also, IIRC, you can transfer SB1 sce's over to Pro, not all as I recall, but ones that use the same maps, IIRC. Something like that..

Commander's Map (the immortal island) would be great, for one.


LS

Skybird03
02-08-2007, 09:52 PM
Take half an hour and check out how to use the mission editor. It is not difficult and only a question of few minutes to chnage playable tanks in a given mission to that type you prefer. I edit missions and chnage orders of battles this way very often (mostly to make tough nuts a bit easier for that novice that I am.) For example I delete almost all artillery, to turn a scenario into that kind of sneaky cowboys-and-indians-game that I usually prefer. Realistic? No. Satisfying? For me: yes. It is very easy to tweak SBP to use it in exactly the way you find most pleasing for your personal needs. Just learn those few basics about the missione ditor. It is a formidable tool, and very easy to use. You can change a whole mission in less than five minutes, really.

ShoutingDog
02-08-2007, 10:02 PM
Just learn those few basics about the missione ditor.I plan to learn the editor and build some custom scenarios as soon as I get the hang of SB. Not new to scenario building just scenario building for SB PRO...

Friendly group here it seems. Thanks for all the help guys.

Ssnake
02-09-2007, 01:09 AM
Another reason for the dominance of Leo missions was that the overwhelmingly large majority of our current army customers are Leopard user states, so M1 scenarios would not have been considered too helpful by those who hand out PE versions to their soldiers.

So, it was a case of shove and pull, I think.

HotTom
02-09-2007, 02:29 AM
All of my missions are for the Abrams (for some I did Leo versions, too, but those were added later to appeal to the masses ). Most are in the Pro PE single player downloads section (not easy or hard, just the overall section), some are in the easy section: Durango, Dogwood, Desert Crossing, Gettysburg and all the Golan missions were written for the Abrams.

It IS easy to change the Leos to Abrams in Mission Builder. BUT, mission designers usually try for balance when they write the scenarios. Putting a puny little M1A1 in place of that hopelessly overmodeled STRV 122 probably will throw the whole scenario out of kilter -- and get you killed a lot.

Pity a lot of the scenario writers don't put the name of the tank in the title or the description. I'm guilty, too. It should be required IMHO.

But there are Abrams scenarios there. Brads, too (In From the North?). Just root around a bit.

Oh, and once you've used the later model Leos, I think you'll find they are easier to gun. That hunter-killer TC ability (available in the M1A2 but not the M1A1 we have) of the Leo2A5 and the STRV 122 usually puts your sight dead on the target rather than just yanking the turret in its general direction. My gunnery is better with those two but I still prefer the Abrams out of some twisted sense of national pride :)

I think for that reason, the Leo is popular as well.

And welcome!

HT