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lavictoireestlavie posted a topic in Ground ZeroHello Everyone, I had a conversation on the War Thunder forum concerning the ability of a company to create fairly realistic and/or accurate armor/protection models of modern main battle tanks given the available data that is out there. To make a long story short, I argued that Gaijin could follow the Esim approach of armor and damage model modelling. Not surprisingly; I was shot down by many nay sayers, saying that the information is classified and that there is little to no information out there to realistically or accurately model the armor and damage model of tanks such as the Abrams, Leopard 2, T-64, T-72, etc. One of the individuals named Choogleblitz had the following to say: "TFW WT(War Thunder) has more advanced penetration mechanics, armour mechanics, and damage models, than a "professional simulator"(Steel Beasts Professional) so therefore WT can (not) do it without the needed data to be modelled correctly." My question: Is the damage model of Steel Beasts Pro less advanced than that of War Thunder Ground Forces ? P.S: Gaijin actually had an event in early April where they had modelled both the T-90A and Leopard 2A5. I was surprised to see that they had actually accurately depicted the weak zones of both tanks. Now the front turret armor of the Leopard 2A5 seemed a bit soft to me at times but overall i was very impressed by their efforts.