D u k e Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) Hi guys,someone needs a new map project?If yes, I have one for you.I was looking through the map folder and found the Dien Bien Phu map.Unfortunatly it`s a big forest. But I searched a little bit in the internet and found something.In the dropbox link you can download 9x 1:50000 maps of vietnam and laos.All you need to make the Dien Bien Phu map.The time frame of these maps is 1965-1968.https://www.dropbox.com/s/2acukpkrrd7qop1/Dien%20Bien%20Phu%201to50000.rar?dl=0So if someone create the map, we can make some Vietnam War missions.Here the website were I found these maps and there are a lot more:http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/ cheersD u k e Edited January 30, 2016 by D u k e english language difficult language 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basher Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Wish there was a way to add that topo image (semi-transparent) to the map editor. Then you could kinda have a way to add the streams and roads in accurately and to scale.I have made some maps in the past by just looking at the map imagery online and using the Mark one eyeball to place it where I think it should go. It makes for creating towns and villages a hard and tedious task.I will give this one a try and it will give me a break from staring at Grenada which has been my latest project. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacbat Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 There's a program out there called Glass2k which lets you adjust the transparency of a window. So you'd make the SB map editor window transparent so you could see your reference image underneath and then start making the map over top of it. Might help you a bit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D u k e Posted January 29, 2016 Author Share Posted January 29, 2016 Servus,I tried it with simple glass:http://www.chip.de/downloads/SimpleGlass_26338150.htmlcheersD u k e 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkAngel Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 I have ways of overlaying reference images over SB maps directly. Digitising is still a Prize A-Hole of a job.The heightmap could also do with regenerating. I think I made that map from V1 srtm. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D u k e Posted August 22, 2016 Author Share Posted August 22, 2016 On Thursday, January 28, 2016 at 6:05 PM, D u k e said: Hi guys, someone needs a new map project? If yes, I have one for you. I was looking through the map folder and found the Dien Bien Phu map. Unfortunatly it`s a big forest. But I searched a little bit in the internet and found something. In the dropbox link you can download 9x 1:50000 maps of vietnam and laos. All you need to make the Dien Bien Phu map. The time frame of these maps is 1965-1968. https://www.dropbox.com/s/2acukpkrrd7qop1/Dien%20Bien%20Phu%201to50000.rar?dl=0 So if someone create the map, we can make some Vietnam War missions. Here the website were I found these maps and there are a lot more: http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/ cheers D u k e Bump 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D u k e Posted September 29, 2016 Author Share Posted September 29, 2016 On 28.1.2016 at 6:05 PM, D u k e said: Hi guys, someone needs a new map project? If yes, I have one for you. I was looking through the map folder and found the Dien Bien Phu map. Unfortunatly it`s a big forest. But I searched a little bit in the internet and found something. In the dropbox link you can download 9x 1:50000 maps of vietnam and laos. All you need to make the Dien Bien Phu map. The time frame of these maps is 1965-1968. https://www.dropbox.com/s/2acukpkrrd7qop1/Dien%20Bien%20Phu%201to50000.rar?dl=0 So if someone create the map, we can make some Vietnam War missions. Here the website were I found these maps and there are a lot more: http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/ cheers D u k e Bump 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D u k e Posted March 1, 2017 Author Share Posted March 1, 2017 On 28.1.2016 at 6:05 PM, D u k e said:  On 28.1.2016 at 6:05 PM, D u k e said: Hi guys, someone needs a new map project? If yes, I have one for you. I was looking through the map folder and found the Dien Bien Phu map. Unfortunatly it`s a big forest. But I searched a little bit in the internet and found something. In the dropbox link you can download 9x 1:50000 maps of vietnam and laos. All you need to make the Dien Bien Phu map. The time frame of these maps is 1965-1968. https://www.dropbox.com/s/2acukpkrrd7qop1/Dien%20Bien%20Phu%201to50000.rar?dl=0 So if someone create the map, we can make some Vietnam War missions. Here the website were I found these maps and there are a lot more: http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/ cheers D u k e  bump 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkAngel Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 You keep bumping this. Are you going to do all the digitizing required?. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 (edited) So we get a bowl of death with an overgrown air base in the middle and an area for some Chaffees (which aren't modelled)?  Edited March 2, 2017 by Gibsonm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D u k e Posted March 3, 2017 Author Share Posted March 3, 2017 15 hours ago, DarkAngel said: You keep bumping this. Are you going to do all the digitizing required?.  why?  @Gibsonm: It`s like always if we have a project, we find a replacement for not modelled vehicles.  cheers  D u k e 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 If you want this map, you need to do the digitizing. Â 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D u k e Posted March 5, 2017 Author Share Posted March 5, 2017 Servus,  why, the Dien Bien Phu map is in your map folder and there is a .hgt too. So all you need is a lot of time, patience and knowledgement how to do. The real maps you can download from dropbox.  cheers  D u k e   0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andres87 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Thank you Duke for real map " Dien Bien Phu". It will definitely be useful.   In my opinion the creation of such a scenario is impossible in SB.  There is no paratroopers, howitzers, M24 Chaffee and of course Napalm. It will be not accurately ( historically, equipment) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splash Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 SB is a simulator -- a training tool. I don't agree with the implication that a map is not a worthwhile project if SB does not model the vehicles involved in an actual event that took place on that terrain. Can nothing be gained from employing other assets in an accurate Vietnam-era environment? Assets appear to be available to create that environment.  DarkAngel's reluctance, on the other hand, seems to be based on the amount of work required. I can't speak to that, since I have no idea what "digitizing" means in relation to SB map work. Either it's more intensive for this particular project than for others .. or there are other factors at play here.  I just don't see the point in trying to shoot down a map request based on vehicle selection.  0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkAngel Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Well the problem is that it would require 100% manual digitizing there are no shortcuts available. You could be looking at several months plus to do the work and I simply don't have that time available. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andres87 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 (edited) The Terrain is already in the SB.  Edited March 22, 2017 by Andres87 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted March 22, 2017 Members Share Posted March 22, 2017 Uh... those are the hills. And a lot of random forest. Notice the straight line leading from the south to the north-east. Looks a lot like two different satellite images with different lighting conditions that then have been run through a filter to turn certain color shades into forest. Both parts are based on "real data" (though maybe low res), but the result hardly is a comprehensive representation of the actual terrain, let alone the terrain of 1956. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkAngel Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Andres87 said: The Terrain is already in the SB.   The terrain isn't the problem. What is being asked for is someone to digitize all the roads (and other potential vector objects ) by hand. This is a massive amount of work (I know i have done it before). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D u k e Posted March 23, 2017 Author Share Posted March 23, 2017 17 hours ago, Andres87 said:  In my opinion the creation of such a scenario is impossible in SB.  There is no paratroopers, howitzers, M24 Chaffee and of course Napalm. It will be not accurately ( historically, equipment)  I totally disagree, we have new buildings, wire, claymores etc. do built up forward bases. We have chinooks, Uheys, Cobras for the aircav. We have M113s, we can downgrade M60 to M48s, we have PT-76, T-55. We can damgage the M109 engines and so we have Howitzers and we can use airstrikes. There are a lot of posibilities. The main problem is to create the enviroment for this map, like DarkAngel wrote thats need time, a lot of time.  cheers  D u k e 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Colossus Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 On 3/23/2017 at 3:15 AM, D u k e said: I totally disagree, we have new buildings, wire, claymores etc. do built up forward bases. We have chinooks, Uheys, Cobras for the aircav. We have M113s, we can downgrade M60 to M48s, we have PT-76, T-55. We can damgage the M109 engines and so we have Howitzers and we can use airstrikes. There are a lot of posibilities. The main problem is to create the enviroment for this map, like DarkAngel wrote thats need time, a lot of time.  cheers  D u k e  you could still articulate a scenario sized area- 10 x 10 km, for example. while that's still a lot of work, it's significantly less work than presuming to do a whole map, which probably wouldn't get entirely used in every conceivable scenario anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted March 25, 2017 Members Share Posted March 25, 2017 It's easy to make such suggestions when it's others who have to do it... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Colossus Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 i wouldn't dispute that, and i did say after all i did say it's still a lot of work. but it's that or nothing, and it's not necessarily an incorrect suggestion. if someone were motivated, that's a possible way to go. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nike-Ajax Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Dien Bien Flu - isnt that a symptom of the french disease:  Military defeat by any enemy foreign and domestic ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted July 14, 2017 Members Share Posted July 14, 2017 Thank you. This was very helpful. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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