Fratreicides?

[ChrisWerb]

I have been playing the instant action scenario with the M1A2 - this time the enemy lost 14 vehicles - 9 to my fire and 4 to fratricides. I used quite a bit of DPICM. Are the fratricides literally enemies shooting into one another or are they DPICM kills?

[Froggy]

Blue on blue, or for instance, red on red.

Red killed by blue artillery are accounted for blue kill ("killed by artillery" in the AAR)

[Mirzayev]

For what it is worth, the AI commits fratricide more often in Instant Action than in any other scenario I have played. This makes sense, as there is a concentration of a large number of single units heading down one Axis of Advance. They do tend to shoot one another, though that is generally due to another vehicle wandering into the path of fire just as the gunner pulls the trigger.

[ChrisWerb]

I'll take another look at the full AAR. What I worked out was a place where if I kept killing them and pouring on the DPICM it would cause a road block where they would clump up and churn around making  an great target for more direct fire and ICM. I suspect that's where the fratricides occurred.

[TankHunter]

If there is a large concentration of units they will tend to have fratricides. That said 4 of 14 is a bit much. How close together were they?

[ChrisWerb]

Bunched up behind a wall of knocked out vehicles. I'm sure that's what happened.

[Lt DeFault]

Maybe the ICM is causing rounds in the barrel to discharge as the enemy AFV is hit?

[ChrisWerb]

I hadn't thought of breech cook-offs. That would also occur from direct fire initiated burns too, if it occurred in the former instance.

[BigBadVuk]

15 hours ago, Mirzayev said:

For what it is worth, the AI commits fratricide more often in Instant Action than in any other scenario I have played. This makes sense, as there is a concentration of a large number of single units heading down one Axis of Advance. They do tend to shoot one another, though that is generally due to another vehicle wandering into the path of fire just as the gunner pulls the trigger.

I dont know about instant action scenario but try Baghdad Thunder Run scenario: if you finish it without any blue on blue fire ill buy you a beer!

Nearly every time tanks behind the leading platoon will at least damage vehicles , if not completely knock them down. My solution was - to ply a bit with fire control options along the routes and on check points.