Skybird03 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 (edited) http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/05/uk-military-intelligence-issues-warning-over-russian-super-tank/ It seems one is leaving the phase of just looking down on this Russian play-thing. Quote The internal document, written by a senior Army intelligence officer, states: “Without hyperbole, Armata represents the most revolutionary step change in tank design in the last half century.” (...) The paper also raises concern over the Scout, a light armoured fighting vehicle due to be introduced for British forces from next year. “In a familiar story of measure and countermeasure, the intelligence assumptions that informed the procurement of Scout as a superior battle-winning platform may now be open to question.” The document says that on top of the Armata tank, Russia is adding “six additional armoured vehicles to the stable”, including a heavy infantry fighting vehicle and a self-propelled artillery system. The intelligence report, which it stresses should “not be interpreted as an official MoD statement”, also raises the spectre of far superior Russian tank numbers, with plans to build 120 Armata tanks a year from 2018. It points out Russia already has a fleet of 2,500 tanks with a reserve of 12,500, which is “35 times the size of the fleet in the British Army”. “With such numbers, decisive effect is credibly achievable and losses are less important,” says the document. However, also this: Quote Lord West of Spithead, a former First Sea Lord, said he was “very concerned” about Russian rearmament. “At the moment, their economy is a war economy,” he said. “They have got the GDP of Italy and they are trying to spend the same on defence as America. What they are doing is unsupportable and when something is unsupportable, then anything could happen.” But if the West lives on tick and on grounds of a forged, paper "money" system, why shouldn't the Russians use the same trick? Its not as if you need to pay material assets with real value these days. Wahsington prnts money, when it needs some. Europe increases credit volumes, if it wants more. Everybody spends. Nobody thinks of the consequences. The party must rage on. Cleaning the kitchen - what, we have a kitchen...? BTW, the Kremlin since years buy physical gold as if there were no tomorrow. Which in a way is right, seen from a fiscal-political point of view. What I mean, is this: "money" is not the arugment to claim that Russia could not get the tanks it wants. Just consider the debt levels of Western states, and realise that all Western nations practically are bancrupt. It cannot be? It is. Its just that one day the kettle will blow up and fly around our ears. Edited November 8, 2016 by Skybird03 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpow66m Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 the T14 really doesnt impress me,the new IFVs and APCs look good.the T14 looks like a giant shot trap. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpabrams Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Sweet, the Cold War is back! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma6584 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 4 hours ago, Skybird03 said: What I mean, is this: "money" is not the arugment to claim that Russia could not get the tanks it wants. Just consider the debt levels of Western states, and realise that all Western nations practically are bancrupt. It cannot be? It is. Its just that one day the kettle will blow up and fly around our ears. You should change your username to "Chicken Little." The sky is falling, the sky is falling! Good grief. Bankruptcy implies you don't have the money to pay your bills. You are making a false equivalency between a human being and a nation state. That is false. Western nations have the money, they just don't have the political will to take it. That is slowly changing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpow66m Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 2 hours ago, dpabrams said: Sweet, the Cold War is back! Lol. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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