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Liudas32

AGL M383HE

AGL with M383HE rounds can easy to destroy an infantry fighting vehicle or an armored personnel carrier in real life like in the game? I'm sure not. Maximum can cause non-serious damage . The ability to penetrate the armor with M383HE is not more than with 5-millimeter bullet

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Are you saying it does destroy a vehicle in game? I guess it would depend on what vehicle and where you shot it at (roof or side lower hull). The "M383" in SB has some significant explosive power. Any kill would not be from the HE effect, not the KE penetration of the round.

 

 

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I think we have a bug where the M383 is modeled after the M384 with its dual purpose warhead that has up to about 70mm HEAT penetration.

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17 hours ago, Ssnake said:

I think we have a bug where the M383 is modeled after the M384 with its dual purpose warhead that has up to about 70mm HEAT penetration.

Probably You mean the M430 HEDP ? (because the M384 is also an ordinary high-explosive fragmentation grenade) 

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Interestingly I can find no 40mm high velocity "M383" in the Jane's Ammunition Handbook, at all. And you are correct, the M384 is a pure HE round, the M430 would be the dual purpose HEDP with hollow charge warhead. Looks like some fixin' is in order.

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22 minutes ago, Ssnake said:

Interestingly I can find no 40mm high velocity "M383" in the Jane's Ammunition Handbook, at all. And you are correct, the M384 is a pure HE round, the M430 would be the dual purpose HEDP with hollow charge warhead. Looks like some fixin' is in order.

M384 probably a later version similar to the M383   https://www.bevfitchett.us/mk-19-machine-gun-40mm-mk-19/note-ein.html  https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/m383.htm

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Could part of the fix please either be to make the default round HEDP or provide an initial choice of HEDP or HE or a user defined number of boxes of each?

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The M383 (and M383E1) exists or existed - do a find for it in this doc:

 

http://www.trngcmd.marines.mil/Portals/207/Docs/TBS/B3M4238 Heavy Machine Gun.pdf?ver=2015-06-17-145347-963

 

As of 2003, the M383 was the HE round in use:

 

http://usacac.army.mil/sites/default/files/misc/doctrine/CDG/cdg_resources/manuals/fm/fm3_22x27.pdf

 

https://www.bevfitchett.us/mk-19-40mm-grenade-machine-gun/use-only-prescribed-ammunition-mixing-types-of-ammunition-could-result-in-injury.html

 

This presentation from 2007 claims the M384 was already out of US Army service at that time.

 

https://ndiastorage.blob.core.usgovcloudapi.net/ndia/2007/smallarms/5_8_07/Grassi-Cola_500.pdf

 

A bit more digging and it appears, as of July this year, the M383 was only in USN use. This also hints at the M430/A1 HEDP being the standard AGL round in US use, which would confirm what has been said over on TN on numerous occasions by a particularly vociferous USMC(R) poster who will remain anonymous. :)

 

https://www.bevfitchett.us/mk-19-machine-gun-40mm-mk-19/note-ein.html

 

Edited by ChrisWerb

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Thanks.

I have renamed the round to M384 now and tweaked the parameters to match it.

I suppose it's not really much of a functional difference anyway, as far as modeling in SB Pro is concerned.

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