Gibsonm Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) It may just be a incorrect memory but I thought the MICLIC used to detonate? Admittedly this was back when the MICLIC model was tracked. Certainly the firing sequence is currently modelled and afterwards there is a path, of sorts, where the mines are gone, but I thought it used to actually go off (boom, pall of smoke, etc.)? If the response is "You're dreaming" that's fine. Edited January 22, 2018 by Gibsonm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpow66m Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 I was watching a video of a Kanium match.They deployed theMiCLiC and there was no boom.There used to be at one point AFAIR. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted January 22, 2018 Members Share Posted January 22, 2018 It should definitely go kaboom. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkAngel Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Will investigate... Thanks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpow66m Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 I just fired off the M2 and MM113 Eng w MiCLiC,and no boom. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkAngel Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 This seems to be invalid. I have just tested it. If you fire it manually (with no mines present) and remembering to press space a second time (while buttoned) it works. Using a breach route and a minefield and observing from the floating camera when the miclic fires there is a satisfying line of explosions go off. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted January 23, 2018 Author Share Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) ??? OK, I'll have another look tonight. I'm not sure about firing with "no mines present" - I tried in front of a surface laid minefield. Also unsure why the need to hit space twice - pressing once has the arm on the trailer rise and the smoke from the rocket. Its the explosion of the length of plastic explosive on the ground that seems to be missing. But as I say I'll have another look tonight. Edited January 23, 2018 by Gibsonm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkAngel Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 As a safety feature you have to press space a second time to detonate the charge. You must be buttoned to do so. The ai on a breach route do it automatically. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted January 23, 2018 Author Share Posted January 23, 2018 Ah so perhaps that's it. I was only pressing once - so it launches, but I don't think I pressed it again to detonate. I guess I leave a second or two between "presses"? I'll try tonight with the two step method. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpow66m Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 ahh never knew that 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkAngel Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 It may have been new with 4.0x to be honest 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted January 23, 2018 Author Share Posted January 23, 2018 Yes I've only ever pressed it once - but anyway will check tonight. I'll let Grenny know too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkAngel Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 7 minutes ago, Gibsonm said: I guess I leave a second or two between "presses"? Yes. Press space to launch it. Wait for it to fire. Give it a few seconds and then press space again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Volcano Posted January 23, 2018 Moderators Share Posted January 23, 2018 Maybe one day, when boredom strikes, someone (or myself) could update the breaching SBwiki page with updated MICLIC info. Or maybe make a new dedicated MICLIC page that all the "Eng" vehicles and obstacles page links to. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted January 23, 2018 Members Share Posted January 23, 2018 Actually, I think that firing MICLIC manually "always" (at least since 2.4 days) required two presses of the space bar. It may be different from the external observer's view and the commander's position. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted January 23, 2018 Author Share Posted January 23, 2018 BUG retracted, it was the new requirement to "double tap". Process that works: 1. Manual Approach: a. Drive / follow route to edge of minefield. b. Go to F7 c. Close Hatch (press b) d.Hit "space" e. Go to F8 - watch arm come up and charge launched f. As arm on trailer arm lowers, go to F7 again g. Hit space. h. Go to F8 - watch "Boom" i. Reverse vehicle away to make room for plough / roller to prove the breach. 2. Scripted Approach: a. Route to near side of minefield b. Breach Route through minefield (Miclic fired automatically) * * CARE: Whilst giving the vehicle a Breach route does fire the MICLIC automatically (launch and detonate), the vehicle then continues into the breach. You need to give it a "retreat if ..." route (if scripting) to get it to back up and allow the proving vehicle into the breach. When I get a chance I'll update my Breach Guide. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted January 23, 2018 Author Share Posted January 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, Ssnake said: Actually, I think that firing MICLIC manually "always" (at least since 2.4 days) required two presses of the space bar. It may be different from the external observer's view and the commander's position. Well for 2.654 and 3.023 it was still single press - hence why I put that in the "Guide". I don't recall pressing it once ever. Unless in frustration (is it ready to fire yet!?) I pressed the space bar a few times in rapid succession and achieving the required double tap without knowing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major duck Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 I Remember that i sat in a M2 and observed Ronin fire the miclic but diddent see an explosion from my vehicle i was in F8 view but that is not a scintific observation but i think i have it on a movie i will look when i get home from work MD 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted January 23, 2018 Author Share Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Major duck said: I Remember that i sat in a M2 and observed Ronin fire the miclic but diddent see an explosion from my vehicle i was in F8 view but that is not a scintific observation but i think i have it on a movie i will look when i get home from work MD Yes, seeing YouTube file, plus some work I've done this week on a Breaching Tutorial is why I raised this ticket (and why I mentioned I'd pass the information on to Grenny). Edited January 23, 2018 by Gibsonm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major duck Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Good for you Mark but i have video of it you haven't seen. But i need to make it smaller as its in 3840 x 1080 with 65 fps and the whole file is pretty big and almost 2 hours long and its only 3 mins that is interesting for this. MD 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DK-DDAM Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 think ive experienced that its more client sided regarding the explosion. that only the one using the miclic were able to see the explosion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted January 23, 2018 Author Share Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, DK-DDAM said: think ive experienced that its more client sided regarding the explosion. that only the one using the miclic were able to see the explosion. Which is I guess where I was getting at. In Ronin / greeny's video he is the crew commander of the Bradley / MICLIC combination. He launched the MICLIC and it didn't go off. That plus my experience in building the scenario prompted this thread. Now that I know about the double tap, I'm alble to get it to work properly and I suspect next time Ronin / Grenny will too - I've sent him a PM just to confirm he knows. Edited January 23, 2018 by Gibsonm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted January 23, 2018 Members Share Posted January 23, 2018 All I'm saying is, I distinctly remember that when this was implemented years ago, two space bar actions were required. MAYBE there was a bug at some point that only a single space bar press was necessary, and later it got (accidentally?) fixed. I don't know. All I know is that it was never intended to be a single space bar action "by design", and that it worked when it was introduced. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted January 23, 2018 Author Share Posted January 23, 2018 In that case, can confirm it works as intended. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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