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General Defense Plan

Gents,

I have a PDF of a OPLAN for Cold War era V Corps/CENTAG, a potential intelligence coup. The problem is, I have only high-school level German, and the ENTIRE document is in German. Anyone out there care to take the time and effort to translate?

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I guarantee you that if you post it here, it will be translated quickly.

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When you write the post, look below the window that you are typing in and you'll see a button labelled "Manage Attachments"

Hopefully QED. :)

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Looked over it. Pretty good stuff the Stasi had at hand there. Full set of defense schemes for the V corps down to dislocation of units, unit boundaries, reserve forces and so on- all for a "Attack imminent within 48h"-scenario.

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Glad it's an enjoyable read! I'll be really glad when this can be shared with everyone. Thanks in advance for any help you can provide translating this monster.

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Looks like they got phone numbers to all sorts of units and also the width and weight limits of main routes,very thorough!

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Although it might be off-topic, that's a great website you have there Gary. Lots of good information, I recommend checking it out if you haven't already.

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Fascinating document. Little confused though. Which Staatssicherheitsministerium are we talking about - West German or East German? If its East German, then they had exquisite intelligence of our operational plans. This must be West German. Anyway, lots of information about my old division, 8th Infantry, which has since been deactivated. Even mentions my old unit 5th battalion 68th armored. Often wondered what the exact plans were for us should the balloon have gone up.

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UHM...you know East Germany was kinda commie and paranoid, so they were the one with the Ministerium für Staatssicherheit...aka Stasi..aka Gestapo reloaded. And yes, the East block got tons of information like that thanks to their spies, which even sat in NATO HQ in Brussels IIRC.

The bit about Task-Force 5-68 is interesting. Corps reserve...quite a job.

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Fascinating document. Little confused though. Which Staatssicherheitsministerium are we talking about - West German or East German? If its East German, then they had exquisite intelligence of our operational plans. This must be West German. Anyway, lots of information about my old division, 8th Infantry, which has since been deactivated. Even mentions my old unit 5th battalion 68th armored. Often wondered what the exact plans were for us should the balloon have gone up.

West Germany had no "Staatssicherheitsministerium", or short: StaSi, which meant the executive arm of it (intel, secret police and uniformed forces). The institution and term is heritage exclusively of the GDR.

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These little tid-bits you guys are throwing out there are fascinating! Keep up the good work, and kindly fill the rest of us in.

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A fascinating document, found in one of the links that GO posted:

http://www.isn.ethz.ch/isn/Digital-Library/Publications/Detail/?id=46280&lng=en

= transcript of an oral history conference from 2006 on military planning in Central Europe during the Cold War.

The transcript focuses on the late 1970s and early 1980s, when Détente came to an end and the Cold War reached a renewed peak with the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, martial law in Poland, etc ...

The conference was unique because it was the first time that high-ranking officers from countries of the former Warsaw Pact and of NATO held organized discussions of their military planning, the role of nuclear weapons in that planning, and their perception of each other’s intentions and capabilities.

It's the actual generals that were facing each other across the border,

that are discussing together !

-> "Today, I can say as an historian, is a historic day. Never before have the former adversaries of the Cold War sat around a table to discuss one another’s war plans"

-> e.g. :

* Leopold Chalupa

Well, thank you. In 1979, I was chief of staff Central Army Group, etc ...

* Mojmír Zachariáš

In 1978, when I was 39 years old, I was a division commander. In 1982, I commanded the 4th Army, and starting from 1986, I was the commander of the okrug troops on the Czechoslovak front. General Chalupa was my adversary.

THX GO for the links

Rgds, K

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Here's an update: I've decided to just go ahead and try translating this doc myself. Wish me luck!

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