SeanPatrick Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 ...do you have NO entries[...]that list server IP addresses which may no longer be valid?Double checked and pauses persist with no IPs in either 'network' or 'access control' on both laptop and desktop. CM stick was physically moved to each machine for tests. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted December 12, 2012 Members Share Posted December 12, 2012 Okay. So we can at least rule out this option. I still think that it is somehow network related, but of course that's just speculation on my part. I COULD ask one of the programmers to look into this, but it may turn out to be a rather time consuming witch hunt that I would like to avoid if it isn't too pressing for you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanPatrick Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Not a big deal for me. I barely notice it. Besides, maybe it'll go away with the new engine.McDaniel, Hoggydog and ChrisB, how 'bout you? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted December 12, 2012 Members Share Posted December 12, 2012 Maybe you can run the Windows performance monitor and find out which process hogs the CPU resources every two minutes?That might give us a clue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Better yet, use this utility: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896645It will log processes in realtime which will allow you to go back and see exactly what Windows was doing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanPatrick Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Will do...but like I said, the pauses always happen at a 2 min. interval in game time and not real time. So if I accelerate time in a mission, let's say it goes to 6x, then the pauses happen every 20 seconds. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted December 12, 2012 Members Share Posted December 12, 2012 Oh. OK. Are these very brief slow-downs or actual freezes? Of course some AAR data are regularly stored to disk. Maybe you have disabled write caching for the disk to which the AAR is being written? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanPatrick Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Write caching for the destination drive is enabled on the desktop, will check the laptop a little later. Caching is disabled for the CM stick. Does that matter?These are micro-freezes. They last maybe a 10th of a second. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted December 12, 2012 Members Share Posted December 12, 2012 Caching is disabled for the CM stick. Does that matter?Nothing gets written to the CM stick with the sole exception of firmware updates and new licenses. So, I don't think that this matters.These are micro-freezes. They last maybe a 10th of a second.Well, in that case these are probably symptoms of the AAR logging. It should happen more often, but maybe your HDD has a large built-in cache or Windows is delaying the writing to an amount that then causes this slight delay.My recommendation is to leave things as they are and wait for the PE upgrade after next (we have already scheduled AAR disk write optimizations in the work plan, but that won't fit into the development pipeline for the coming upgrade).If you like tinkering with your computer and feel somewhat experimental you may want to research how to adapt disk write caches. But it's much easier to make things worse than to improve them in this area. And you'll be on your own. No guarantees. No money back. These are the kind of stunts done by professionals. Don't try them at home. You have been warned. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanPatrick Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 I'll wait...thanks! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markb Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Apologies for bringing this back up again. I just wanted to state that I'm also having regular freezes since beginning with the sim yesterday.The freezes are half a second perhaps, and occur at regular intervals during execution.I should also add that I didn't have any issues to begin with, but progressively throughout today it has increased in severity (I've been playing all day so far).It's not a show stopper, merely an annoyance at this time.I also thought it may be read/write or a network issue (I'm using hamachi at the moment), but I'll continue to look into it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anfiach Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 You are not alone Mark 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markb Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 ok just a little more on this.I set a mission running (just one of the M1 TC tutorials), and had SB windowed, and was monitoring Codemeter, Hamachi, and something called SBProPEcm processes specifically in resource monitor.The spikes in activity occur every two minutes wherever I am in SB, but they only cause pauses in the 3d view during execution phase. ie. I can pause the 3d view and continually move my mouse around with no pauses occurring. Likewise if I drop to map view.The pause coincides exactly with a large spike in activity on all 3 processes.I timed the pauses with a stopwatch, hitting lap for each pause, they're roughly 2min intervals, give or take a second (that maybe me though!). But I can reliably 'allow' for it, ie. Leave my stop watch running and not take any long range shots at the wrong time!Hamachi peaks by the most. CodeMeter, and SBProPEcm both disappear completely from the list within a minute after the spike, and then reappear with the next spike.So presumably this is a recurring license check. Obviously until I get my dongle I can't know if it is specifically network related, the interruption could be caused by CM looking for a USB dongle, for example? No idea. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted February 5, 2013 Members Share Posted February 5, 2013 I'm pretty sure that it IS the license check over the network. Obviously, with a local stick there will be no latency issues. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgerDog Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 I'm pretty sure that it IS the license check over the network. Obviously, with a local stick there will be no latency issues. Why would any software product need to be checking every two minutes for a license? :confused: Is there some way of moderating this to be less obtrusive to being able to use SB? I've noticed similar latency issues, even when on our local 1 Gb LAN... Thanks .. Regards, Doug 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Well I suspect the frequency of checking is set by Codemeter, not eSim.As to whether Hamachi is "at fault" or not, I'd refer you to posts #22 - #31 and #41 - #52. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgerDog Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Well I suspect the frequency of checking is set by Codemeter, not eSim. Maybe it's a variable that can be set within the CodeMeter software, which is spec'd by eSims as to the two minute value? It would be nice to find out if that can be altered to stop the every 2 minutes pregnant pauses. Regards, Doug 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Well we don't even know for certain that that is the issue.AAR writing is also a suspect. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgerDog Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Well we don't even know for certain that that is the issue.AAR writing is also a suspect.Understood ...Regards,Doug 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotareneg Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 I just checked with Process Monitor, and both the AAR writing and the network activity (presumably for license checking) both happen on two minute intervals. I've noticed occasional short pauses myself and never really thought about it much until now, but later today I'll do this again with PM running and see if I can correlate the pauses with an recorded event. The first image is the over-all system activity as I start SPProPE, drive around a bit on the Tanks201 scenario, and then exit: Next is just SBPro's activity: And finally the CodeMeter activity: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markb Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 I've also been looking more into the AAR processes. To be honest it's easy to see what's being read/written and when, although I've found that played in 3d view with no time accel my AAR (amongst a couple of other hidden system logs) are being written every other minute for about a minute. The network activity spikes still at every 2mins, I can't see any real pattern between the two in relation to freezing in the game.My feeling now is it is log file/aar. I played through a whole 15 minutes with time acceleration on and I didn't get any pauses at all (but could still see the activity spikes), but during that time the log files and AAR was being constantly written rather than intermittently. If it was codemeter this pause would be seen everywhere and in any mode. It's not apparent in the map, in aar playback, or at full time acceleration. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markb Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 ok correction, it does occur whilst in map view, I just need to watch closer Though several times it paused in between log file cycles with no apparent SB initiated disk I/O activity at all. So, that's me stumped then :confused: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted February 5, 2013 Members Share Posted February 5, 2013 Why would any software product need to be checking every two minutes for a license? :confused:There are reasons, but we may review them to see if we can do a bit about it. Can't promise it for the coming PE release, but maybe some time after that.Is there some way of moderating this to be less obtrusive to being able to use SB?Not for you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markb Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Received my dongle today, have been playing for several hours since without a single instance of the pause re-occurring.Nothing else has changed, I've just added the dongle and switched off hamachi.The sim also loads a lot quicker.So for the issue I was having that is pretty conclusive, I'm aware that elsewhere in this thread someone still had the issue even with a dongle. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Nothing else has changed, I've just added the dongle and switched off hamachi.You might want to "clean up" and remove the IP address I gave you to put in Codemeter. The sim also loads a lot quicker.I think that's because it checks locally for the license now, not "all the way" (from your POV) to me (via who knows what sort of connections in between). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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