maddin Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 HelloI designed a scenario where I use the spanish Leo 2E but using german ammunition, the DM53 (APFSDT) and DM12 (MZ). The interesting observation was that I can't get a proper hit with the DM12 ammuniton. It seems that the DM12 shoot's about twice the the actual range. The ammunition works with the other Leo 2. Did I missed something? Normally the spanish Leopard 2 should be able to shoot the DM12.Best regardsMartin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Hum, Read the Manual?DM12 have to be manualy fired has there is no DM12 ballistic firing table in the Leopardo 2E. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grenny Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 For the HEAT/HE round, use the standart ammo on the Leo2E.As froggy said, DM-12 does not work 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddin Posted January 22, 2012 Author Share Posted January 22, 2012 OK. Thank you. About the manual. Haven't any about the Leopard 2E. Maybe I can find it as a download on webside?RegardsMartin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jartsev Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 OK. Thank you. About the manual. Haven't any about the Leopard 2E. Maybe I can find it as a download on webside?RegardsMartinThere are build-in tutorials for Leopardo 2E, check them- mission 05b covers engagements with DM12/M830. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted January 22, 2012 Members Share Posted January 22, 2012 The Leopardo indeed is a bit of an aberration. I'm not sure how much I am at liberty to discuss the background. Let's just say that the Spanish Army had different ideas about one fundamental assumption in 2008 than we had in 1998, which resulted in a fixed set of ballistic data in the Leopardo 2E's fire control computer irrespective of the ammo loaded. So you have to adapt and overcome through practice. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Extract from Leopardo 2E tutorial (21 Leo 2E Gunnery E - HEAT)Note: The Leopardo 2E has no data input into the ballistic computer for the DM12 round, and this round shares ballistic data with the Slsgr 95 HE round. As the two types of ammunition have very different velocities, the HEAT round will fly over the target if the actual range is input into the ballistic computer. To hit a target with this type of round a reduced range must be programmed into the Fire control system, or set on the Auxiliary sight: Obtain or estimate the correct range to the target. Using the auxiliary sight (F3) set a range of half the range to the target on the HE scale, then engage as normal, allowing slightly less lead. Or if you want to use the TIS mode of the GPS (F2), then set half the lased range using a manual range input onto the computer control panel to the gunner's right. At very long ranges over 3km, a range of slightly more than half may be required.The Leopardo is not normally equipped with HEAT rounds, and only retains a nominal capability to fire them should they require emergency supplies from an allied force also using the NATO 120mm smoothbore. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddin Posted January 23, 2012 Author Share Posted January 23, 2012 So, it is a realistic case that the Leopardo don't have the ballistic data for the DM12 and not a software bug?RegardsMartin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted January 23, 2012 Members Share Posted January 23, 2012 Yes. It is an unfortunate deviation from the established user interface standards, but arguably a realistic, and certainly an intentional one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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