Tonywjones44 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 UK Armour now has 10 members and recruiting is temporarily suspended until the present contingent have completed their basic training. Once that's done, I will probably reopen the unit to new members on a first come, first served basis. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben_C Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Good to hear you've had such interest. I fired you a PM over the weekend regarding this subject. Regards,Ben 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisenschwein Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 That are good News from UK!Nice to have another Community in the nearly same Time Zone.All the best from Germany. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grenny Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 That are good News from UK!Nice to have another Community in the nearly same Time Zone.All the best from Germany.I 2nd that... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonywjones44 Posted March 4, 2012 Author Share Posted March 4, 2012 That are good News from UK!Nice to have another Community in the nearly same Time Zone.All the best from Germany.Thank you for your welcome. We may be brand new but we are all very keen - and are lucky enough to have some excellent training officers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisenschwein Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Ja, it´s not that easy to form a Community and keep them together. As a man that is interested in other Amy´s and writing a Sce. for you please give me a Hand and light me up a little: What will the callsign of a UK Tank Platoon are ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 I think we're going with: CO (Coy, Battle Group etc) = X9Platoon Lead = 1X...1st wing = 1XA...2nd Wing = 1XB...where X = variable.(Is that what you're after?) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Except of course the Brits have now gone away from that. Refer here: http://www.steelbeasts.com/sbforums/showthread.php?t=16339 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Killjoy Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Is it not 1 Troop, 2 Troop etc for individual platoons? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Is it not 1 Troop, 2 Troop etc for individual platoons?1. Well no.Its 1 Troop, 2 Troop for individual Troops andIts 1 Platoon, 2 Platoon for individual Platoons2. We are talking about their callsign on the radio or how marked on a map.When talking in person to the Tp Ldr of 1 Troop you still talk about "1 Troop", not "10". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Killjoy Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 1. Well no.Its 1 Troop, 2 Troop for individual Troops and Its 1 Platoon, 2 Platoon for individual Platoons 2. We are talking about their callsign on the radio or how marked on a map. When talking in person to the Tp Ldr of 1 Troop you still talk about "1 Troop", not "10". Aaaah. Squared away now, sah 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonywjones44 Posted March 5, 2012 Author Share Posted March 5, 2012 I think we're going with: CO (Coy, Battle Group etc) = X9Platoon Lead = 1X...1st wing = 1XA...2nd Wing = 1XB...where X = variable.Hedge, Is it normal for the CO and possibly his 2 i/c to have their own tanks not attached to any particular platoon/troop? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Hedge, Is it normal for the CO and possibly his 2 i/c to have their own tanks not attached to any particular platoon/troop?Yes.The OC and his 2IC move around the battlespace independent of the line troops (so the OC can influence the battle, etc.).The vehicles are notionally part of SHQ Troop but are hardly ever there.Oh and whilst the "in game" dialogue boxes refer to "CO"'s in the UK (and derivative armies) there is only one CO (at my rank level) and below him/her there are "OC" (Officers Commanding) the various Squadron and Companies.Another Americanism we may be spending money to make changable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grenny Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Yes.The OC and his 2IC move around the battlespace independent of the line troops (so the OC can influence the battle, etc.)....The german FMs say it like this: the leader chooses his position as it suits him best...)valid for all leadership levels.) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben_C Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 It's a good point. The CO should be running the battle, not getting bogged down in running a platoon or finding targets for his gunner. It's easy to get target fixated on that BMP you're trying to hit and ignore the flanking attack by a squadron of T-80's... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonywjones44 Posted March 6, 2012 Author Share Posted March 6, 2012 Yes.The OC and his 2IC move around the battlespace independent of the line troops (so the OC can influence the battle, etc.).The vehicles are notionally part of SHQ Troop but are hardly ever there.Oh and whilst the "in game" dialogue boxes refer to "CO"'s in the UK (and derivative armies) there is only one CO (at my rank level) and below him/her there are "OC" (Officers Commanding) the various Squadron and Companies.Another Americanism we may be spending money to make changable.Thanks Mark. So at what level does OC become C.O in the UK? Brigade? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonywjones44 Posted March 6, 2012 Author Share Posted March 6, 2012 The german FMs say it like this: the leader chooses his position as it suits him best...)valid for all leadership levels.) Ooo - I'm looking forward to doing that. But not for a while methinks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben_C Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 An Officer Commanding (OC) is usually a Major and commands a Squadron or Company.The Commanding Officer (CO) is usually a Lt Col and commands the regiment/battle group (usually 4 Sqn/Coy depending on type/nationality/etc etc).The Brigadier commands the Brigade, (3-ish or more BGs) and if I see him looking at a map then I'm in the wrong place....or I'm making them all a brew. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 As I understand it a Commanding Officer is the officer at the top.And Officer's commanding are the officers in charge of sub-units under the CO.(All the way down to the Corporals leading the inf sections/tanks.)So, if we had a sce with a Company of tanks the co for that mission is the company commander.And Platoon leaders would be the first level of OCs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonywjones44 Posted March 6, 2012 Author Share Posted March 6, 2012 As I understand it a Commanding Officer is the officer at the top.And Officer's commanding are the officers in charge of sub-units under the CO.(All the way down to the Corporals leading the inf sections/tanks.)So, if we had a sce with a Company of tanks the co for that mission is the company commander.And Platoon leaders would be the first level of OCs.Aha. So it varies depending on deployed resources. OK. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonywjones44 Posted March 6, 2012 Author Share Posted March 6, 2012 The only drawback with calling units of 3 or 4 tanks troops is that when the gunner calls out 'Troops!' I hear several voices saying 'Yes?' Or am I imagining that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grenny Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 The only drawback with calling units of 3 or 4 tanks troops is that when the gunner calls out 'Troops!' I hear several voices saying 'Yes?' Or am I imagining that? The gunner should only be heared on the intercom...so a non issue 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonywjones44 Posted March 6, 2012 Author Share Posted March 6, 2012 The gunner should only be heared on the intercom...so a non issueJust joking. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 (edited) As I understand it a Commanding Officer is the officer at the top.And Officer's commanding are the officers in charge of sub-units under the CO. (All the way down to the Corporals leading the inf sections/tanks.) So, if we had a sce with a Company of tanks the co for that mission is the company commander. And Platoon leaders would be the first level of OCs. Um, No. Brigadiers command Brigades (as mentioned abouve). LTCOL are Commanding Officers of BG / Units MAJ are OC of "sub units" (be they a Sqn, Coy or Bty). LT command "Troops" or "Platoons". A Commanding Officer is a specific title with legal and administrative powers that go with the job. Not all LTCOLs are COs. Its not just a title given to the highest ranking guy there. If there is only one Sqn deployed and no LTCOL, the OC is in charge but still an OC. He doesn't suddenly become the CO. LTs run Troops and are called Troop Leaders. They don't magically become COs or OCs just because they are operating on their own. Edited March 6, 2012 by Gibsonm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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