borisz Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Hi Everyone!I still learning armored warfare in SB.What is the tactics to fight in urbanised areas with tanks, apc + infantry? Does these tactics work in SB too?THX! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 (edited) Hi Everyone!I still learning armored warfare in SB.What is the tactics to fight in urbanised areas with tanks, apc + infantry? Does these tactics work in SB too?THX!You will have to provide more information on the type of mission it will be .peacekeeping, Assault, defence etcWhat equipment do you intend to use. Are there civilians in the mission.What are the rules of engagement. Yes urban tactics definitely do work in SB. Its probably the most brutal form of warfare Edited January 17, 2014 by Marko 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted January 17, 2014 Members Share Posted January 17, 2014 Well, restrictive rules of engagement - especially for computer-controlled units - are so cumbersome to implement that I wouldn't call it feasible (simply on grounds of practicality). Also, I think that a number of other elements are missing. We'll gradually add them to SB Pro; we certainly do not intend to keep our software functionally limited to what it can currently do. But right now you can have combat also with lots of buildings around, but not really what I'd call "urban warfare" ... at least not with anything but low or medium fidelity. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maj.Hans Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Get some infantry.Tell the infantry to get into the city and clean it up.Stay back, watch, and explode things they point at.???Profit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borisz Posted January 18, 2014 Author Share Posted January 18, 2014 (edited) You will have to provide more information on the type of mission it will be .peacekeeping, Assault, defence etcWhat equipment do you intend to use. Are there civilians in the mission.What are the rules of engagement. Yes urban tactics definitely do work in SB. Its probably the most brutal form of warfareClear the city from enemy infantry and some well placed hardware. Sneaky tanks in the city in battlepositions in ditches. AA guns in the city.Civilians: someReduce colleterial damage to civilian buildings. (dont turn the city to a smoking junktown like in Syria)Secondary task is to clear any road barricades, and perhaps clear streets if they mined.You have M1a2 sep and M2 +infantry, some humwee, support and engineeri units.Smoke, HE and ICM support.Scenario is something like in Fallujah? Edited January 18, 2014 by borisz 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted January 18, 2014 Members Share Posted January 18, 2014 What you describe should be possible, especially if you don't use artillery, or maybe only 60mm mortars. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borisz Posted January 18, 2014 Author Share Posted January 18, 2014 Okay,so what would be the best tactic in SB to accomplise this?Terrain is basicly flat desert, Saud-Arabi Khafji like city.Assault battalion is starting outskirts of the city about 5 km.The main roads from the city is all blocked with light armored units, to prevent the enemy escape. Controlled by AI.So the assault:That's what I have in my mind.Scout with humwee? Perhaps the first contact will kill them.Sending in infantry, going house to house following the streets, leaving PC behind for long range fire support. Securing the PC with infantry. Advancing with it if the path is decleared safe.Tanks staying behind too. If enemy armor has spotted, send it in.As the battalion advance deeper in the city, leaving some infantry behind at key locations where they can observe and guard the once cleared area.? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borisz Posted January 18, 2014 Author Share Posted January 18, 2014 The city has some heavy urban area.Here is some pics from the city:city limitssome open areagetting heavynarrow streetsone part of the city in birds view 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocalypse 31 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Infantry squads don't work very well in urban combat. Hopefully eSim can improve this with their next patch.The default line formation, and the fact that infantry get stuck on just about every object make it very hard maneuver infantry squads, let alone platoons.The way infantry engage in combat also raises an eyebrow; they seem to have a very deliberate process of stopping, seeking, then finally engaging with very limited bursts of fire. Infantry combat just isn't developed to the point of being able to conduct combined arms maneuver in urban settings. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grenny Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 ...Infantry combat just isn't developed to the point of being able to conduct combined arms maneuver in urban settings.If you take the usual phases of an infantry assault:approach=>assault=>break in=>confusion=> then hold off counterattack or fight into the dept. With SB you are able to get till the phase: "confusion"...after that the squad get stuck somewhere or refuse to engage openly viable targets 8-) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Okay,so what would be the best tactic in SB to accomplise this?Terrain is basicly flat desert, Saud-Arabi Khafji like city.Assault battalion is starting outskirts of the city about 5 km.The main roads from the city is all blocked with light armored units, to prevent the enemy escape. Controlled by AI.So the assault:That's what I have in my mind.Scout with humwee? Perhaps the first contact will kill them.Sending in infantry, going house to house following the streets, leaving PC behind for long range fire support. Securing the PC with infantry. Advancing with it if the path is decleared safe.Tanks staying behind too. If enemy armor has spotted, send it in.As the battalion advance deeper in the city, leaving some infantry behind at key locations where they can observe and guard the once cleared area.?If you can edit the mission, Equip your inf with AGL teams and fifty cal teams.You can jump to Gunners position your self if needs be. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocalypse 31 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 If you can edit the mission, Equip your inf with AGL teams and fifty cal teams.You can jump to Gunners position your self if needs be.yes, but then you're only moving at a snails pace 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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