Maj.Hans Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 1 hour ago, Ssnake said: Ah. Plastik Am Himmel. You know, the BO-105 was always considered to be the training helicopter until the real one (which ended up being the Tiger; they should have bought the Apache right from the start, but noo...) would come into service. Which it never did, until very recently. I'm curious, I always understood the Tiger was comparable to the Apache. Are you suggesting they should have bought Apache to get a chopper quicker, or that it should have been bought instead of Tiger because it's superior? Also, I can't help but laugh..."Hubschrauber"...I know what it means but it still sounds funny to me. Like the word Buoy. Buoy...Boo-ee...Silly word... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted September 30, 2016 Members Share Posted September 30, 2016 The various configurations for the Tiger are somewhat comparable to the AH-64A, except that they were effectively introduced ten to twenty years after the Apache, and that the Apache now has the Longbow radar (and the Tiger doesn't). A lot of money was wasted on the development of an inferior "me too" product that suffered from the diverging requirements between what the French wanted (and got), and what the Bundeswehr wanted (and didn't get, because they changed their fundamental requirements mid stream). Going for the Apache would have been faster, maybe even cheaper, and would have yielded a vastly more capable system. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iarmor Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 The following video, from June 1975, shows Shimon Peres (Israeli MOD at the time) visiting a M60 unit near Tasa, Sinai. The tanks are seen at the first 15 seconds and then from 5:40 to the end: A photo gallery from the same event can be seen here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vikingo Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 14 hours ago, Swordsmandk said: Great find . Always loved the Bo and fennel AT chopper Yes! Me too Glad is coming (hope soon) for DCS... They did a nice work with the "Gazelle" http://www.polychop-sims.com/bo-105-pah-1a1/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12Alfa Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TankHunter Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Not tanks, but still interesting 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red2112 Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 No gas mask for the none-smokers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpow66m Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 is that normal for a SPH? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maj.Hans Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Slightly OT but I think mpow66m needs a new avatar... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt DeFault Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Back before they really started to suck...[sigh]. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 2 hours ago, Lt DeFault said: Graphic Back before they really started to suck...[sigh]. Ah now I understand. I thought it was linked to the symbol from the American War of Independence. Didn't a state, or collection of states, have a "snake like" logo / banner? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maj.Hans Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 46 minutes ago, Gibsonm said: I thought it was linked to the symbol from the American War of Independence. That is the origin, the screenshot for the video, and mpow66's avatar, are the original Gadsden flag. It was a reference to a drawing originally published by Benjamin Franklin, depicting the separate colonies as a chopped up snake, "Join or Die". Surprise! All the colonies got together, and now if you step on us... "No Step On Snek" is just a lighthearted parody of the original, for those who completely missed the original meaning of the flag lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skybird03 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Pilots say the Bo-105 is not the easiest, but a very capable helicopter to fly. A by now famous video on it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lakMTYTUKM The pilot was instructor with the BW, and some time later got himself killed in one of his stunt flights. If you fly too long with that almost non-existent, extremely narrow margin for error, your luck sooner or later is eaten up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSe419E Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bond_Villian Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 (edited) When NOE means NOE! Groovy music too, is John Holmes flying that thing? Edited October 12, 2016 by Bond_Villian 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashdivay Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 If Mrs Gibson ever needs a new veggie patch.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpow66m Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 On 10/10/2016 at 9:49 PM, Maj.Hans said: Slightly OT but I think mpow66m needs a new avatar... LOL 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 (edited) On 13/10/2016 at 9:05 AM, Hedgehog said: If Mrs Gibson ever needs a new veggie patch.... Sorry had to open the link to see what you are talking about. "Veggies" is a humorous name given to our Cav Scouts - the guys travelling around in the ASLAV Type 2 within a Cav Tp. Having seen the video, I think my wife would prefer to use a miclic. Edited January 31, 2017 by Gibsonm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisWerb Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 (edited) On 30/09/2016 at 10:43 AM, Maj.Hans said: I'm curious, I always understood the Tiger was comparable to the Apache. Are you suggesting they should have bought Apache to get a chopper quicker, or that it should have been bought instead of Tiger because it's superior? In retrospect, the Australians should have bought something other than the Tiger - they have had a lot of problems with it, particularly relating to manufacturer support, and are looking to ditch it. Whether Apache would have been a good call for them, I can't say. It's an awesomely effective machine, particularly when fitted with the Longbow Radar, and recent upgrades, but it's still very, very maintenance intensive, which when you will need to operate far from bases is not such a good thing. It looks like they're not intending to directly replace Tiger with anything, but there is at least one person here who would have access to much more up to date info than I have: https://warisboring.com/australia-is-giving-up-on-its-tiger-gunships-which-have-never-seen-combat-ac0f8f3152c7#.azc5dwlx0 Edited October 13, 2016 by ChrisWerb 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daskal Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Gotta love the Era of HD and 60 FPS: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpow66m Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 (edited) Det er nødvendigt... (Film fra 1962) Edited October 14, 2016 by mpow66m 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12Alfa Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maj.Hans Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Fun fact, he mentions the tanks the Germans stole from the Czechs. I wrote a term paper for a history class on the effect of letting Germany have the Sudetenland on WW2... Pz.35t, Pz.38t tanks (about 50% of German tank strength in France...) leading to the Hetzer, etc, Vz.24 rifles (equipping 11 divisions...) and the ZB26 LMG...etc 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSe419E Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Short, but neat. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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