Gibsonm Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Of course, this is more US -- not UK -- doctrine. Sadly, there is little Internet material concerning the latter (and virtually nothing about BAOR doctrine). Yes because the US is almost unique in publishing all their doctrine on the web. Some wags have suggested that's OK because they hardly ever follow it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjay Posted December 28, 2014 Author Share Posted December 28, 2014 Subtle differences between doctrines are way over my head. I'm stilll at the stage of trying to get to grips with the basic stuff - like how eny forces can be 'chanelled' into my desired EAs and the role of indirect fires in making sure retreat routes are protected. :heu: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer_Leader Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 One other helpful document I forgot to mention: FM 71-123 Tactics and Techniques for Combined Arms Heavy Forces -- Armored Brigade, Battalion Task Force, and Company Team. Does not appear to be available in PDF format.Look what I found in my Field Manual library: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/71686353/FM%2071-123%20Tactics%20and%20Techniques%20for%20Combined%20Arms%20Heavy%20Forces%3B%20Armored%20Brigade%2C%20Battalion%20Task%20Force%20and%20Company%20Team_Sep%2092.pdfFM 71-123 Tactics and Techniques for Combined Arms Heavy Forces: Armored Brigade, Battalion/Task Force and Company/Team, September 1992 in PDF.:bigsmile: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDF Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Look what I found in my Field Manual library: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/71686353/FM%2071-123%20Tactics%20and%20Techniques%20for%20Combined%20Arms%20Heavy%20Forces%3B%20Armored%20Brigade%2C%20Battalion%20Task%20Force%20and%20Company%20Team_Sep%2092.pdfFM 71-123 Tactics and Techniques for Combined Arms Heavy Forces: Armored Brigade, Battalion/Task Force and Company/Team, September 1992 in PDF.:bigsmile:Excellent, thanks! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 (edited) Subtle differences between doctrines are way over my head. I'm stilll at the stage of trying to get to grips with the basic stuff - like how eny forces can be 'chanelled' into my desired EAs and the role of indirect fires in making sure retreat routes are protected. :heu: OK so some pre-reading then. First we'll review the likely enemy and how they conduct an advance, refer the earlier links provided here: http://www.steelbeasts.com/sbforums/showpost.php?p=266720&postcount=28 Then we'll look at what we have to do the job. So Enemy and Friendly done, then we'll move on to cover one of the other fundamentals, being the "ground". Many armies use an acronym "OCOKA" * to review the ground and fully understand it. This then forms the basis for how we choose to do whatever we intend to do. We will use OCOKA to look at Rhys's mission and we will move on to discuss how to use the forces at our disposal to achieve the required amount of delay (we are given some timings). Now we understand the enemy, ourselves, the ground we have to do the job, and the nature of the job (BTW you have just done an "appreciation" of sorts), that will then form the basis of our plan and then we will run the scenario to a point (in view of the bite sized chunks requirement) to see how well the plan goes. We can then save the file so that people can then go one to see how it goes with the main body. * reasonable working definition here: http://www.armystudyguide.com/content/army_board_study_guide_topics/survival/ocoka.shtml Edited December 29, 2014 by Gibsonm Fixed first link. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjay Posted December 29, 2014 Author Share Posted December 29, 2014 I look forward to it muchly. :bigsmile: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjay Posted December 29, 2014 Author Share Posted December 29, 2014 Here you go sir: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/71686353/Heavy%20CT%20Delay%20v%20%28T-64B%29%20Tank%20Battalion%20FD%20v2.1%20%283.002%29_UK%20CT%20Special%20Edition.rarHi Rhys. Hope you had a good Christmas. Question: Do the triggers do anything? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Well usually if he has gone to the trouble of putting them in, they do do something. Just remember though that one isn't the one we'll be using on your 7th / my 8th (we'll be using the one I provided the link to earlier: http://www.steelbeasts.com/sbforums/showpost.php?p=266659&postcount=17 but it will make a good tool for you guys to apply the lessons learned on the 7th to the same problem but using UK equipment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjay Posted December 29, 2014 Author Share Posted December 29, 2014 Understood. But there are 10 of them - and no mention of their function in the briefing. I await a reply from the man himself. Also understood that the UK CT version is not the one we will be using on the 7th. Personally, I would prefer that one as it has CR2s, Warriors, and Scimitars - with which UKA is familiar. But it's your call.I will try to ensure that we come to the sesson having already made ourselves familiar with the terrain - which may save a bit of time during the planning phase. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Personally, I would prefer that one as it has CR2s, Warriors, and Scimitars - with which UKA is familiar. But it's your call. Which is why it makes a good confirmatory exercise for you guys. All the other parts of the equation remain the same (enemy, ground, mission, time, etc.), you just need to adjust your new plan to reflect the unique characteristics of the UK gear vs the stuff in the scenario I'll run. The CR2 is different to an M1A1(HA) so how does that effect where you deploy?, how does it effect the timings of the move?, can you make this BP in a CR2?, how does the Fin / HESH allocation impact on the plan?, .... Warrior, their passengers, and Scimitar add more variables. Its a good way to learn that you can't just template "a" solution and apply it to every situation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer_Leader Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Understood. But there are 10 of them - and no mention of their function in the briefing. I await a reply from the man himself. Hi TjayThe 10 triggers you see are the default placeholders only, you'd have these in any scenario. There are no triggers coded into the scenario that the player needs to worry about. All you need to do is perform the mission according to the briefing and see what score you get at the end.Cheers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjay Posted December 29, 2014 Author Share Posted December 29, 2014 Hi TjayThe 10 triggers you see are the default placeholders only, you'd have these in any scenario. There are no triggers coded into the scenario that the player needs to worry about. All you need to do is perform the mission according to the briefing and see what score you get at the end. Cheers Hi Rhys That's what I thought, 'cos the 2.654 version has one trigger, and that is plainly labelled. But I thought it best to check. Excellent scenario, btw. Any others on the same theme? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjay Posted December 29, 2014 Author Share Posted December 29, 2014 Its a good way to learn that you can't just template "a" solution and apply it to every situation.Got it. :drink: Clearly it will be whole lot easier with the Brit equipment. :heu: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer_Leader Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Excellent scenario, btw. Thanks, I still play it a lot because it's dynamic and challenging and success is never guaranteed. Get your planning wrong, take your eye off the ball or make too many mistakes and RED will roll right over you. Any others on the same theme? No, this is the only scenario focusing on Delay I've developed but you can find all my scenarios below: [AS & NZ] M1A1 Platoon Attack on Reinforced Motorised Rifle Company http://www.steelbeasts.com/Downloads/p13_sectionid/268/p13_fileid/2218 [AS] Heavy CT Delay v Tank Battalion FD http://www.steelbeasts.com/Downloads/p13_sectionid/268/p13_fileid/2282 [GE] Area Reconnaissance at Neustadt am Rübenberge 1989 http://www.steelbeasts.com/Downloads/p13_sectionid/268/p13_fileid/2340 [DK] Armoured Infantry Company Attack at Rydsgard 1991 http://www.steelbeasts.com/Downloads/p13_sectionid/268/p13_fileid/2407 [bR] Combat Team Flank Attack at Hamelin 1990 http://www.steelbeasts.com/Downloads/p13_sectionid/268/p13_fileid/2581 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjay Posted December 30, 2014 Author Share Posted December 30, 2014 Triffic! On the way to download them. :bigsmile: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjay Posted December 31, 2014 Author Share Posted December 31, 2014 Unfortunately, UKA Wednesday evening sessions are suspended until further notice as Crusty will be out of action due an operation on his right wrist. And without Crusty there is no life. Lifting all those pints of beer was bound to take its toll in the end. :wink: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 (edited) Well I hope his wrist gets better.Please let me know as soon as he is back on deck because taking Thursday mornings off becomes problematic once the leave period is over and things get back to normal post silly season. Edited December 31, 2014 by Gibsonm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjay Posted December 31, 2014 Author Share Posted December 31, 2014 Well I hope his wrist gets better.Please let me know as soon as he is back on deck because taking Thursday mornings off becomes problematic once the leave period is over and things get back to normal post silly season. Understood. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Sim HQ Post:http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/4059967#Post4059967 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) Sim HQ Post:http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/4059967#Post4059967 Um, I think you need to talk to your "Boss". While you were posting that at SimHQ, he has scrubbed it, due to lack of interest. Edited January 5, 2015 by Gibsonm added "due to lack of interest" and :( 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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