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Does “Puma” get an award for the most oft recycled AFV name?

Puma = SdKfz 234/2, 8 wheeled German armoured car from the Second World War.

Puma = current tracked German IFV (and possible L400 contender).

Puma = the above vehicle mentioned by 12Alfa.

Any more ....?

The Helicopter?

But then that's not really armoured or a fighting vehicle....

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Puma

The baseline APC version of the Puma is armed with a 12.7mm M2 machine gun. However, the vehicles can be fitted with a range of turrets and cupolas developed by Oto Melara, including one with a remote-controlled weapon.

IVECO has developed a number of specialised versions of the Puma for the Italian Army. These include ambulance, command post, 81mm mortar, air defence with MBDA Mistral missiles and two anti-tank (one with the Raytheon TOW

http://modelist-konstruktor.com/img/4875/1.jpg

and one with the Euromissile MILAN anti-tank guided missile system).

https://alamarimusicali.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/puma6x6eiirq.jpg

http://www.autosupermarket.it/magazine/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/202.jpg

Hitrole Remote Weapons System

http://www.warwheels.net/images/Puma6x6baum%20%283%29.jpg

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ERC 90 Sagaie

The ERC 90 “Sagaie” is a French heavily armed reconnaissance vehicle and tank destroyer. The ERC designation stands for “Engin à Roues, Canon” (wheeled vehicle, gun-equipped). It was named “Sagaie” after a type of African spear, suggesting its designers’ third world export intentions.

http://armour.ws/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/ERC-90_Sagaie_Line_Drawing_France_01.gif

The ERC series was developed from 1975 as a private venture by the French Panhard company with the intention to sell it to less-developed countries that could afford to support the infrastructure and costs of modern main battle tanks as an affordable source of firepower. The first prototype was shown to public in 1977 and in 1979 the first ERC vehicles started rolling out of the Panhard factory in Marolles.

http://www.theworldwars.net/weapons/pictures/land/fr/photos/photo_fr_erc90_2.jpg

The earlier ERC variant from 1977 was called “Lynx” and was equipped with a 90mm CN90 F1 gun that was essentially a HEAT-firing cannon, powerful but not enough to become a true tank killer. The French realized at that point that there would be a large export market available for a wheeled tank destroyer armed with something powerful enough to knock out the ubiquitous variants of the Soviet medium tanks (including the T-72). To that end, they installed the powerful 90mm CN90 F4 into the TS90 turret and called this variant the “Sagaie”. This gun could fire (amongst other things) advanced APFSDS rounds capable of dealing with even more advanced enemy armor.

http://www.militaryvehicle-photos.net/images/pf-military-vehicle/12724.jpg

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ERC 90 Sagaie

History.

The vehicle was born in the competition which saw also the birth of the VAB. Indeed in 1970 the construction of the VAB bring different firms competing for the market. Renault wins but Panhard studies have not been made wasted.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b24/hybenamon/LAND/ARMOR/FRENCH/WHEEL/SAGAIE/ERC90-03.jpg

Indeed Panhard decides to launch its own funds on a new line of military materiel in configuration armoured 6X6.

Panhard also benefits from the legacies of all its studies on the EBR and AML.

Thus Panhard develops a range of 6X6 vehicles which also include vehicles troop carriers chassis, which will be divided into various versions anti tanks PC anti Air Command as well as a Armoured car with gun, which will become the Sagaie.

This vehicle is developed from 1977. It has been sold for export (Argentina

http://www.armyrecognition.com/images/stories/south_america/argentina/wheeled_vehicle/erc-90_argentine/ERC-90_Panhard_light_wheeled_combat_armoured_vehicle_Argentina_Argentine_Army_640.jpg,

Iraq,

Mexico

http://www.warwheels.net/images/ERC90mexicoMontes%20%282%29.JPG,

Republic of Cote d'Ivoire

http://www.armyrecognition.com/Afrique/Cote_Ivoire/vehicules_a_roues/ERC-90/ERC-90_1_COTEIVOIRE.JPG,

Niger

http://www.armyrecognition.com/images/stories/news/2014/october/Nigerian_army_has_captured_T-55_tank_and_ERC-90_Sagaie_4x4_armoured_from_Boko_Haram_militants_640_001.jpg

) the French army

http://www.defense.gouv.fr/var/dicod/storage/images/base-de-medias/images/ema/tchad/07-10-09-tchad-exercice-interarmees-a-moussoro/alignement-des-six-erc90-sagaie/330522-1-fre-FR/alignement-des-six-erc90-sagaie.jpg

selected for some cavalry regiments, as well as a paratrooper regiment before be screened overseas.

This machine is a device to classify 8 ton, with a turret gun with a 90 mm long gun.

The EBR central wheel can be raised or lowered at will. Sagaie is amphibious unprepared and moves on the water with its wheels at the speed of 10 km. The water jet can equip the vehicle but as an option.

http://data6.primeportal.net/tanks/pierric_boudehen/erc_90_sagaie/images/erc_90_sagaie_034_of_134.jpg

The only preparation is to lift the breakwater at the front

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and if you have this option snorkels at the rear.

http://data6.primeportal.net/tanks/pierric_boudehen/erc_90_sagaie/images/erc_90_sagaie_100_of_134.jpg

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ERC 90 Sagaie

Armoured vehicle variant (Guns)

The major difference between the ERC 90 variants is the type of turret fitted on each model. The Sagaie is armed with a 90mm gun on the two men crew TS-90 turret.

http://data6.primeportal.net/tanks/pierric_boudehen/erc_90_sagaie/images/erc_90_sagaie_117_of_134.jpg

The Nexter Systems TS 90 modular/90 mm gun turret was revealed for the first time in 1977. It is suitable for use on any tracked or wheeled AFV weighing over 7,500 kg and fires the same range of ammunition as the AMX-13 light tank armed with the 90 mm gun.

http://www.quarryhs.co.uk/MECAR%2090mm%20tank.jpg

The turret has to date been installed on the Panhard ERC 90 F4 Sagaie (6 × 6) armoured car, http://www.army-technology.com/projects/erc-90-vehicles/images/5-defence.jpg

AMX-10 PAC 90 Fire Support Vehicle,

http://www.military-today.com/artillery/amx10_pac90.jpg

AMX-10 RAC (6 × 6) armoured car,

http://foreignlegion.info/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/equipment/1rec-amx10-rc-iraq.jpg

MOWAG Piranha (8 × 8) APC,

http://media.defenceindustrydaily.com/images/ORD_Cockerill_90mm_On_Piranha_II_lg.jpg

General Dynamics Santa Bárbara Sistemas BMR 600 (6 × 6) APC

http://voenteh.com/assets/images/0481.jpg

and the VBC 90 armoured car.

http://a2goos.com/data_images/galleryes/renault-vbc-90/renault-vbc-90-04.jpg

In 1984 the turret was installed on an M113 series APC for trials in the US. In this configuration.

http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/panzerbar/17086497/45462/45462_original.jpg

The 90mm F4 canon can fire APFSDS ammunitions.

http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/42/1445083497-90-mm-pour-canons-f3-et-f4.png

http://www.quarryhs.co.uk/PICT0264.jpg

The French Army is the major operator of Sagaie.

http://www.defense.gouv.fr/var/dicod/storage/images/base-de-medias/images/ema/tchad/07-10-09-tchad-exercice-interarmees-a-moussoro/tir-erc90-sagaie/330452-1-fre-FR/tir-erc90-sagaie.jpg

A few vehicles are also in service with armies worldwide.

ERC Lynx / ERC 90 CMI

The Mexican Army operates approximately 120 ERC Lynx vehicles. ERC 90 CMI is fitted with a two men crew CMI CSE-90 turret mounting a 90mm gun.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-1BO5evp_ldY/TWb1w1f9IjI/AAAAAAAAIY8/HH5x56L3eiA/s400/cmi%2Bcse90.jpg

ERC 90 can be armed with a 90mm F1/F4 canon or Cockerill Mk3 90mm low pressure gun depending upon the turret configuration. Lynx carries 21 rounds of 90mm ammunition and Sagaie carries 20 rounds of ammunition for main gun.

http://i19.servimg.com/u/f19/16/67/34/85/551.jpg

A coaxial 7.62mm machine gun serves as a secondary weapon for the vehicle.

http://data6.primeportal.net/tanks/pierric_boudehen/erc_90_sagaie/images/erc_90_sagaie_110_of_134.jpg The vehicle is also fitted with four smoke grenade launchers.

http://data6.primeportal.net/tanks/pierric_boudehen/erc_90_sagaie/images/erc_90_sagaie_105_of_134.jpg

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ERC-90 Sagaie

The all-welded steel hull provides the crew with protection against small arms fire and shell splinters. The floor of the hull consists of two plates welded together to form a flat V which helps the vehicle to slide off obstacles and stiffens the floor against damage from mines.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5c/ERC_90_Sagaie-1RCA-IMG_5579.jpg

The driver is seated at the front of the hull, slightly to the left of the vehicle's centreline. This hatch is in two parts: one part, which contains the forward-facing periscope, folds forward onto the glacis plate and the second part folds upwards. The forward periscope can be replaced by an image intensification periscope for night driving, and there is an additional periscope either side of the driver's hatch cover.

http://data4.primeportal.net/tanks/jean_thomas_rembert/erc_90/images/erc_90_12_of_30.jpg

All vehicles in the range are powered by a militarised version of a Peugeot V-6 petrol engine which develops 145 hp at 5,500 rpm. Power is taken from the engine through a single-plate clutch to a transversely mounted Panhard gearbox with six forward and one reverse gears and incorporating a Panhard cam-type limited slip differential from which the drive is taken to either side of the vehicle.

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The centre wheels, which are raised off the ground when on roads, are sprung by hydropneumatic units. The centre wheels are powered even when raised clear of the road surface.

http://cars-pics-db.com/pics/panhard/panhard-erc-90/panhard-erc-90-05.jpg

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ERC-90 Sagaie

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Ivory Coast | Purchase of 5

Argentina | Purchase of 14

Chad | Purchase of 4

Côte d’Ivoire | Purchase of 7

France | Purchase of 192

Gabon | Purchase of 14

Mexico | Purchase of 120

Variants

ERC 90 F4 Sagaie (ERC-1 Sagaie)

http://www.arrse.co.uk/community/attachments/4372746_5_054b_des-troupes-francaises-engagees-en_a4ca78dcbf75205b4412b33eae697c5b-jpg.186091/

ERC 90 F4 Sagaie 2 (ERC-2 Sagaie)

http://www.armyrecognition.com/europe/France/vehicules_a_roues/ERC_90/ERC-90_Sagaie_FR_16.jpg

ERC 90 F1 Lynx (ERC-1 Lynx)

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/61/5c/cc/615cccd46ee1329412860c40c921ee84.jpg

ERC 60/12 Mangouste

http://daniel.rabbe.free.fr/fiches/panhard/erc/erc25.htm

https://www.google.ca/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjkmdzQ4dfJAhVrtIMKHWqdABMQjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.eugensystems.com%2Fviewtopic.php%3Ft%3D47947&psig=AFQjCNF_zWaUwoi2HWdQ4ST3r14DBXfrVQ&ust=1450059108221807

ERC with SAMM TTB 190 turret

http://www.armyrecognition.com/Afrique/Gabon/vehicules_a_roues/ERC-90/ERC-90_2_GABON.JPG

ERC with SAMM TAB 220 20 mm turret (Gabonese army)

http://www.armyrecognition.com/Afrique/Gabon/vehicules_a_roues/ERC-90/ERC-90_1_AA_GABON.JPG

Non production but possible

ERC with 60-20 Serval turret

ERC with SAMM S 530 A 20 mm turret

ERC with TG 120 turret

ERC with TTB 140 40 mm turret

ERC with ESD TA-20 turret

Since it has entered service with the French Army, the Panhard ERC 90 F4 Sagaie has already been upgraded in a number of areas including additional turret armour, increased external stowage and roof skate mount for a 7.62 mm machine gun. Some have also been fitted with a roof-mounted anti-tank missile decoy system.

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You also see nicely how the dresscode changes with the escalation level.

Plain uniform => vest+berret=>vest+ helmet.

When someone tell you to put on your helmet, it's sometimes is going to get "exiting".

Had something similar happen to me. Patrolled in this village for months in full battle rattle, then we decided to go with soft caps:clin:, all hell broke out on the patrol. Back to full battle rasttle for the rest of my tour.

You just never know when the fan will attract shit (shit hittin the fan):c:

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TR-85

The Romanian TR-85 (the TR stands for Tank Romanesc - Tank Romanian) is a drastically modified version of the T-55 with a new turret, a new power pack that includes a German diesel engine, and a completely redesigned locally developed suspension.

The turret is from the Soviet T-55 and the transmission and engine are derived from the German Leopard 1. But the TR-85 is far from a T-55 turret on a Leopard body, as the Leopard has seven road wheels, while the TR-85 has six.

The T-55 [and the Romanian TR-77] have only five road wheels, and lack the skirt that is the prominent identificaiton feature for the TR-85.

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