Grenny Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 (edited) Greetings Gentlemen. I working on a BN size Scenario and I'd like to invite you to join the battle :-) I plan to run that one some time after the next LNoT. Date for the "Battle of the Plains" would be 07nov15 or 14nov15. Blue forces are a battle groups, with 4 company size combat teams. (Plus combat support, CSS bells and whistles) I want to gather what general interest would be there for the mission and also what type of combat team you would like to play in. I have 8 options prepared (please check the attached scenario for force setups(line units only) and and the map of the scenario) The 4 options with the most votes will be deployed in the scenario. I hope people will not get grumpy if their choise does not make it, and are willing to join a a CT that get enought votes. I'll will make a consolidated-staffing list thread later. So, again, check out the attached files and make your choice. There is a compressed Sce file that contains the battle field and the Blue-force options. Also there is a compressed *pdf with informations about our OPFOR. Choises are: USA: 2x4x M2A2(2xJavelin teams), 4xM1A4, 2xM2A2 Cmd Group Spain: 2x4 Pizarro(2xSPIKE teams), 4x Leo2E, 2x Pizarro Cmd Group UK: 2x4Warrior, 2x3 CR2, 2xWarrior+Javelin team, 2x Warrior Cmd Group Sweden: 2x3 CV9040C, 2x3 Strv 122, 2xCV9040C Cmd Group AT/GE: 2x4 ULAN( 2x Bill-1 team), 4x Leo2A5, 2x Ulan Cmd Group NL: 2x4 CV9035NL (2x Spike team), 4x Leo2A5, 2x CV9035NL Cmd Group CA: 2x4 NZLAV(LAV III lookalike) , 4x Leo2E, 2x NZLAV Cmd Group AU: 2x6 ASLAV(8x ASLAV25, 4x ASLAVPC, 4x Javelin team), 4 M1A2 sans Comanders TIS, 1x ASLAV25/1xPC Cmd Group The "bling" is still in the works. I planning on a ribbon, and extra ribbons for CT and BG commanders. I also intent to establish a type of "battle honours" principle. As for this one, any VU that fields at least 4 players would be entiteled to the "Battle of the Plains" honour. * edit, apologies for mistyping, esp. country names in the Poll :-( Battle of the plains OPFOR.zip Battle of the Plains_MAP_BLUEFOR.zip Edited May 28, 2015 by Grenny 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Sounds good! I can make either day. Will look at the attachments over the weekend. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grenny Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share Posted May 28, 2015 (fixed).Now? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Yep - post modified.Can you choose more than one option?e.g. Canada or Australia or ... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grenny Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share Posted May 28, 2015 Yep - post modified.Can you choose more than one option?e.g. Canada or Australia or ...I'd perfer not to. I would want to have an Idea of the total nr of player interested. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer_Leader Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 I'm keen pending GOC Home Command's approval on date and time. I voted CT Australia naturally, as I'd expect any self-respecting member of BG ANZAC to do (assumes role of Chief Whip). @Gibsonm, it'd be great if we could stand up a national contingent for this one, assuming Aussie gets through. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjay Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Two people have voted for the UK. In Warriors. Truly, madness stalks the earth. :1: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusty Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Two people have voted for the UK. In Warriors. Truly, madness stalks the earth. :1:You called sir :1: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D u k e Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 "Rule, Britannia!" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 I'm keen pending GOC Home Command's approval on date and time. I voted CT Australia naturally, as I'd expect any self-respecting member of BG ANZAC to do (assumes role of Chief Whip). @Gibsonm, it'd be great if we could stand up a national contingent for this one, assuming Aussie gets through. Agreed, I'm just not sure why we have a Cav / Tk mix while the others appear (I haven't loaded the files yet) to have Mech Inf / Tk. Even by doubling the Javelin allocation the "infantry" can't hope to take a position (since the 8 guys in each troop are now humping 4 x Javelin CRUs). No doubt looking at the files this weekend will shed some light. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 4xM1A4, A new version? 2x3 CR2 if this is "near future" then it should be 4 tanks per troop. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grenny Posted May 29, 2015 Author Share Posted May 29, 2015 Agreed,I'm just not sure why we have a Cav / Tk mix while the others appear (I haven't loaded the files yet) to have Mech Inf / Tk. Even by doubling the Javelin allocation the "infantry" can't hope to take a position (since the 8 guys in each troop are now humping 4 x Javelin CRUs). No doubt looking at the files this weekend will shed some light. The thinking behind that, given the Terrain and the enemy, the combat value of the MechInf platoons in their M113AS4 would be very limited as they are lacking some standoff.(In my p.o.v most of the fighting would be mounted) The 25mm Bushmaster on the ASLAV delivers that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 The thinking behind that, given the Terrain and the enemy, the combat value of the MechInf platoons in their M113AS4 would be very limited as they are lacking some standoff.(In my p.o.v most of the fighting would be mounted) The 25mm Bushmaster on the ASLAV delivers that. Stand off, isn't that what the Tanks are for? Saying that however, the squishy things in the back of M113AS4 would be invaluable in a hasty defence and offer more options tactically than a uber mobile 25mm. Just my thoughts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Grenny,Sorry I still can't make an informed choice until I know what the CT is meant to do?Of course I could just go with the Nationalistic choice but that might be totally unsuited for the task you have in mind.Also if these are meant to be realistic:1. Damage the Commander's Sight on the AS tanks. We do not have CITV.2. Cut the Australian Infantry in half. One ASLAV PC carries four people in a Recon Tp. You have given them a Javelin team so delete the rifle teams. In reality the guys have a Javelin in the vehicle and take it if required, so in SB terms it can alternate between a rifle team or a ATGM team, but not both.So 4 dismounts per ASLAV PC, 8 dismounts per ASLAV Tp. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grenny Posted May 31, 2015 Author Share Posted May 31, 2015 Grenny,Sorry I still can't make an informed choice until I know what the CT is meant to do?Of course I could just go with the Nationalistic choice but that might be totally unsuited for the task you have in mind.Also if these are meant to be realistic:1. Damage the Commander's Sight on the AS tanks. We do not have CITV.2. Cut the Australian Infantry in half. One ASLAV PC carries four people in a Recon Tp. You have given them a Javelin team so delete the rifle teams. In reality the guys have a Javelin in the vehicle and take it if required, so in SB terms it can alternate between a rifle team or a ATGM team, but not both.So 4 dismounts per ASLAV PC, 8 dismounts per ASLAV Tp.No need to rush it...poll open for 2 more weeks ;-)I'll hurry to push the situation/mission for the BG a.s.a.p. so you can better judge what the mission involves.If the down-under-faction still believes that the M113 and it's enhanced dismount capability is better suited for the mission, have it your way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 All good, look forward to the detail, who knows CR2 maybe the way to go. Also I maybe able to help in terms of what to trim from the OPFOR to thin it out (for performance) but maintain the punch. Again what is expendable depends on its mission (although from the nice red arrow I guess they are on the offensive)? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grenny Posted June 24, 2015 Author Share Posted June 24, 2015 Ok, 30 Votes.USA, AUT/GE and UK are set. Sweden and Spain are at the same level.So lets see.Spain:+less frequent use in the MP games, lets try something new+we get to use Spike ATGM+More powerfull gun in the Leo2E+Pizarro has ERA-the Pizarro has this evil case-bag that you need to empty from time to time-maybe less people have experience in driving the PizzaroSweden:+Good IFV with 40mm gun+Strv 122 is also not used to often in MP games+powerful RBS 56 AT teams-low ammo loadout for the IFV-less powerful sabot round in Strv 122 (ok, we could just use DM-53 or something)-no ATGM , or maybe the Bill-1Don't know. For me the Spanish are favourit for that mission.Help :-D 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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