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What IFV would you pick to be made playable


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What IFV would you pick to be playable  

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  1. 1. What IFV would you pick to be playable

    • Marder
      19
    • Puma
      6
    • BMP-1
      3
    • BMP-2
      20
    • BMP-3
      5
    • BMD any version
      0
    • AMX-10P
      0
    • DARDO, IFV
      0
    • Type 89 IFV
      0
    • A PLA IFV any type. to many to list.
      0


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Well.

You know you can place units OUTSIDE the "map" with grid squares etc? I just put a BM-21 battery 40km from the map edge.

Sure they will not be ON the map but they are there at least.

And regarding your rant on Marder, Marder isn't the BEST IFV in the world (sorry Grenny!) but it is the IFV we need playable the most to fill a longstanding gap in playable IFVs.

Instead of a playable Marder you ask for an updated version of an already playable vehicles (M2A2), what is better, an updated already existing or a totally new playable vehicle?

BMP-3 is really dreaming, in no way are Esimgames ever gonna be able to get data enough to simulate it, just like the T-90.

And what is up with your "IFV must have ATGM or it sucks?" all the time? IFV and Tanks and ATGM vehicles have different jobs and work together, IFV are INFANTRY FIGHTING VEHICLES. not ANTI TANK VEHICLES WITH DISMOUNTS IN THE BACK. Pretty big difference if you ask me.

/KT

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I know that IFVs job is not fighting tanks. But we have lot of playable IFVs without ATGM so i think its a time for something with ATGM. On the world there are many IFVs with ATGM while in SB only one is playable.

And you must remember that making new vehicle takes more time for than improving already existing. Especially when we talk about things like 3D models. I personally hate ATGM launchers operated from exterior and 20mm guns so Marder is not my choice, its something that i would personally put at the end of the list. But its only my opinion.

M2A3 is something we will probably see in future just like we got upgraded Abrams. I think there are real chance that this will appear in SB. Unfortunately there are very small chances for a BMP-3.

I personally enjoy CV-90/30, Pizzaro and Ulan. They are very nice, but they don't have ATGM. If you fight against things that can be penetrated by 30mm its all good. Soviet BMP series are not well armored, maybe BMP-3 has some armor while others (especially BMD series) are easy to kill.

And placing things outside of map not really makes sense as they probably become immune, and this is unrealistic!

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Seems to be a two horse race I must be the only member voting for the BMP-1

LoL. I was also going to vote for the marder but changed my mind at the last minute.

As much as I would like one, We have a really good selection of western IFV,s some soviet

IFV,s would IMO enhance MP considerable.

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And placing things outside of map not really makes sense as they probably become immune, and this is unrealistic!

They do not become immune, they die just as anything else, they are just put further back then anything else. Kind of where MLRS are supposed to be to be able to put fire on the map.

Marko: agreed, after Marder a BMP-2 are on my wishlist, we need some playable redfor. But after a Marder :cool3:

/KT

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I think they could make playable BMP-1 or 2 without too much work just like they did in T-62. Those relatively simple vehicles do not really need 3D interior (even when 3D interior would be nice).

I think it would be a good idea to make some quick and dirty BMPs.

So this way they could make it without putting a lot of time or money in it. I am not a big fan of those vehicles but they make a lot of sense here as a very common enemy. And they have those stupid ATGM!!! Yes!!! :wink:

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They do not become immune, they die just as anything else, they are just put further back then anything else. Kind of where MLRS are supposed to be to be able to put fire on the map.

Marko: agreed, after Marder a BMP-2 are on my wishlist, we need some playable redfor. But after a Marder :cool3:

/KT

It is in fact very realistic. Very often i had to drive somewhere i didn't have a map of. In SB you can do the same....another cool feature of steelbeasts!!

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I found myself voting for the Marder because I remember so many of the scenarios I used to play when starting out in SB featured German forces just crying out for a playable Marder and, well, the German VU members just deserve one. A playable BMP-1/2 would be next (I don't care which). Tied in third place for me would be a M2/M3A1 and FV432 (OK, it's not an IFV but I still think it would make a cool addition to SB, especially if you consider my vote in the playable tank thread).

One can dream...

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Funny you should post that....

Here is the draft list of choices for the crewable vehicle survey I will be posting. Please let me know if anyone wants any other candidates added, or if there are any mistakes, etc.

SK-105 Kürassier A1 [Austria]

SK-105 Kürassier A2 [Austria]

Saurer 4K 4FA APC [Austria]

Steyr 4K 7FA APC [Austria]

Pandur I APC [Austria]

Pandur I AT [Austria]

Pandur II 8x8 APC [Austria]

Pandur II 8x8 IFV [Austria]

Pandur II 8x8 AT [Austria]

Pandur II 6x6 APC [Austria]

Pandur II 6x6 AT [Austria]

2T Stalker Recce [belarus]

Cougar Recce [Canada]

LAV-25 [Canada]

M-84D [Croatia]

M-95 Degman [Croatia]

T-72M4 [Czech Republic]

Patria APC [Finland]

Patria IFV [Finland]

Patria Recce [Finland]

Patria ATGM [Finland]

Patria Mobile Gun System [Finland]

A4 AVL [France]

AMX-10P [France]

AMX-10RC [France]

AMX-13/75 [France]

AMX-30 [France]

Aravis [France]

Leclerc Series 1 [France]

Leclerc Series 2 [France]

Leclerc Series XXI [France]

Panhard EBR [France]

Panhard ERC 90 [France]

Panhard AML-245 [France]

VAB VTT [France]

VAB RASIT [France]

VAB Genie [France]

VAB ATLAS [France]

VAB Rapsodie [France]

VBC-90 [France]

VBCI [France]

VBL ATGM [France]

VBL Recce [France]

VBR [France]

VCAC Mephisto [France]

VCI T.20/13 [France]

Vextra 105 [France]

VOA [France]

Fennek [Germany]

Jaguar 1 (HOT) [Germany]

Jaguar 1A3 [Germany]

Jaguar 2 (TOW) [Germany]

Kanonenjagdpanzer [Germany]

Leopard 1A0 [Germany]

Leopard 1A1 [Germany]

Leopard 1A2 [Germany]

Leopard 1A3 [Germany]

Leopard 1A4 [Germany]

Leopard 1V [Germany]

Luchs [Germany]

Leopard 2A0 [Germany]

Leopard 2A1 [Germany]

Leopard 2A6 [Germany]

Leopard 2A7 [Germany]

Leopard 2A7+ [Germany]

Marder 1 (with MILAN) [Germany]

Marder 1A1(+) [Germany]

Marder 1A1(-) [Germany]

Marder 1A1A [Germany]

Marder 1A1A2 [Germany]

Marder 1A2 [Germany]

Marder 1A3 [Germany]

Marder 1A5 [Germany]

Pionierpanzer 3 Kodiak [Germany]

Puma IFV [Germany]

Raketenjagdpanzer 1 [Germany]

Raketenjagdpanzer 2 [Germany]

Wiesel 1 recce [Germany]

Wiesel 1 MK20 [Germany]

Wiesel 1 TOW [Germany]

Wiesel 2 Engineer [Germany]

Wiesel 2 Command Post [Germany]

Wiesel 2 FOV [Germany]

Wiesel 2 [Germany]

M60/Samsam [iran]

Achzarit [israel]

Sho't [israel]

Magach [israel]

M60/Perah [israel]

Sabra [israel]

Merkava I [israel]

Merkava IIA [israel]

Merkava IIB [israel]

Merkava IIC [israel]

Merkava III [israel]

Merkava III BAZ [israel]

Merkava III Dor-Dalet [israel]

Merkava IV [israel]

Merkava IVM [israel]

Nagmachon [israel]

Nakpadon [israel]

Namer [israel]

Puma CEV [israel]

Wolf [israel]

M60 Phoenix [Jordan]

C1 Ariete [italy]

Ariete Mk 2 [italy]

Dardo IFV [italy]

Type 10 MBT [Japan]

Type 61 MBT [Japan]

Type 70 APC [Japan]

Type 74 MBT [Japan]

Type 89 IFV [Japan]

Type 90 MBT [Japan]

Type 96 APC [Japan]

YPR-765 pri [Netherlands]

YPR-765 pri.50 [Netherlands]

YPR-765 prat [Netherlands]

Chonma-ho MBT [North Korea]

M1992 APC [North Korea]

Pokpung-ho MBT [North Korea]

VTT-323 APC [North Korea]

Al-Khalid MBT [Pakistan]

Al-Zarrar MBT [Pakistan]

BWP Puma [Poland]

KTO Rys [Poland]

KTO Irbis [Poland]

PT-91 Twardy [Poland]

OT-62 APC [Poland/Czechoslovakia]

OT-64 SKOT [Poland]

SPG Kalina {Poland]

Type 59 MBT [PRC]

Type 63 APC [PRC]

Type 69 MBT [PRC]

Type 77 APC [PRC]

Type 79 MBT [PRC]

Type 80 MBT [PRC]

Type 85 MBT [PRC]

Type 86 IFV [PRC]

Type 88 MBT [PRC]

Type 89 APC [PRC]

Type 92 IFV [PRC]

Type 90-II MBT [PRC]

Type 96 MBT [PRC]

Type 97 IFV [PRC]

Type 98 MBT [PRC]

Type 99 MBT [PRC]

YW-531H APC [PRC]

ZBD-97 IFV [PRC]

ZBD2000 IFV [PRC]

2S25 Sprut-SD [Russia]

BMD-4 [Russia]

BMP-T [Russia]

BTR-90 [Russia]

BTR-T IFV [Russia]

Kurganets-25 [Russia]

T-14 Armata MBT [Russia]

T-15 Armata IFV [Russia]

T-72B2 [Russia]

T-72B3 [Russia]

T-72B3M [Russia]

T-90 [Russia]

T-90A [Russia]

T-90S [Russia]

T-90AM [Russia]

T-90MS [Russia]

K1 MBT [south Korea]

K1A1 MBT [south Korea]

K2 Black Panther MBT [south Korea]

K200 IFV [south Korea]

K21 IFV [[south Korea]

VEC [spain]

BvS-10 [sweden]

Bandvagn 206 [sweden]

Pansarbandvagn 301 [sweden]

Pansarbandvagn 302 [sweden]

Strv-103 [sweden]

Piranha I [switzerland]

Piranha II [switzerland]

Piranha-IIIH [switzerland]

Centurion Mk 1 [uK]

Centurion Mk 2 [uK]

Centurion Mk 3 [uK]

Centurion Mk 5 [uK]

Centurion Mk 5/1 [uK]

Centurion Mk 5/2 [uK]

Centurion Mk 6 [uK]

Centurion Mk 6/1 [uK]

Centurion Mk 6/2 [uK]

Centurion Mk 7/1 [uK]

Centurion Mk 7/2 [uK]

Centurion Mk 8/1 [uK]

Centurion Mk 8/2 [uK]

Challenger 1 [uK]

Challenger 1 IP [uK]

Challenger 2 [uK]

Challenger 2E [uK]

Chieftain Mk 2 [uK]

Chieftain Mk 5 [uK]

Chieftain Mk 10 [uK]

Chieftain Mk 11 [uK]

Chieftain 800 [uK]

Chieftain 900 [uK]

FV432 APC [uK]

FV438 Swingfire [uK]

Saracen APC [uK]

Saxon APC [uK]

Scorpion recce [uK]

Scout SV recce [uK]

Scout SV Protected Mobility Recce Support [uK]

Spartan APC [uK]

Striker AT [uK]

Warrior (FV510) [uK]

Desert Warrior [uK]

Warrior (Capability Sustainment Programme) [uK]

BTR-4 [ukraine]

BTR-94 [ukraine]+

T-64BM2 [ukraine]

T-64U [ukraine]

T-64BM Bulat [ukraine]

T-80UD [ukraine]

T-80UM [ukraine]

T-84 [ukraine]

T-84 Oplot-M [ukraine]

T-80BVD [ukraine]

LVTP-7 [uS]

AAVP-7A1 [uS]

Joint Light Tactical Vehicle [uS]

M1A1(HA+) [uS]

M1A1AIM [uS]

M1A2 (Baseline) [uS]

M1A2S [uS]

M114 APC [uS]

M1126 Stryker APC [uS]

M1127 Stryker Recce [uS]

M1128 Stryker Mobile Gun System [uS]

M1129 Stryker Mortar Carrier [uS]

M1130 Stryker Commander's Vehicle [uS]

M1131 Stryker Fire Support Vehicle [uS]

M1132 Stryker Engineer Squad Vehicle [uS]

M1134 Stryker Anti-Tank Guided Missile Vehicle [uS]

M48 [uS]

M48A1 [uS]

M48A3 [uS]

M48A5 [uS]

M60 [uS]

M60A1[uS]

M60A1 Rise Passive [uS]

M60A2 [uS]

M60A3 [uS]

M60A3 TTS [uS]

M551 [uS]

M-ATV [uS]

M2A0/M3A0 [uS]

M2A1/M3A1 [uS]

M2A2 [uS]

M2A3 [uS]

BMD-1 [uSSR]

BMD-2 [uSSR]

BMD-3 [uSSR]

BMP-1 IFV [uSSR]

BMP-2 IFV [uSSR]

BMP-3 IFV [uSSR]

MT-LB APC [uSSR]

2S1 [uSSR]

BRDM-2AT [uSSR]

BTR-D [uSSR]

BTR-60 APC [uSSR]

BTR-70 APC [uSSR]

MT-LB/FO [uSSR]

PRP-3 [uSSR]

PT-76 [uSSR]

T-55 [uSSR]

T-55A [uSSR]

T-55M

T-55AD [uSSR]

T-55MV [uSSR]

T-62D [uSSR]

T-62M [uSSR]

T-64 [uSSR]

T-64A [uSSR]

T-64B [uSSR]

T-64BV [uSSR]

T-64BM2 [uSSR]

T-72 [uSSR]

T-72A [uSSR]

T-72AV [uSSR]

T-72B [uSSR]

T-72BV [uSSR]

T-72M1V [uSSR]

T-80 [uSSR]

T-80A/Obj. 219A [uSSR]

T-80B [uSSR]

T-80BV [uSSR]

M-84 [Yugoslavia]

M-84A [Yugoslavia]

M-84AB [Yugoslavia]

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Funny you should post that....

Here is the draft list of choices for the crewable vehicle survey I will be posting. Please let me know if anyone wants any other candidates added, or if there are any mistakes, etc.

SK-105 Kürassier A1 [Austria]

SK-105 Kürassier A2 [Austria]

Saurer 4K 4FA APC [Austria]

Steyr 4K 7FA APC [Austria]

Pandur I APC [Austria]

Pandur I AT [Austria]

Pandur II 8x8 APC [Austria]

Pandur II 8x8 IFV [Austria]

Pandur II 8x8 AT [Austria]

Pandur II 6x6 APC [Austria]

Pandur II 6x6 AT [Austria]

2T Stalker Recce [belarus]

Cougar Recce [Canada]

Bison APC [Canada]

LAV-25 [Canada]

M-84D [Croatia]

M-95 Degman [Croatia]

T-72M4 [Czech Republic]

Patria APC [Finland]

Patria IFV [Finland]

Patria Recce [Finland]

Patria ATGM [Finland]

Patria Mobile Gun System [Finland]

A4 AVL [France]

AMX-10P [France]

AMX-10RC [France]

AMX-13/75 [France]

AMX-30 [France]

Aravis [France]

Leclerc Series 1 [France]

Leclerc Series 2 [France]

Leclerc Series XXI [France]

Panhard EBR [France]

Panhard ERC 90 [France]

Panhard AML-245 [France]

VAB VTT [France]

VAB RASIT [France]

VAB Genie [France]

VAB ATLAS [France]

VAB Rapsodie [France]

VBC-90 [France]

VBCI [France]

VBL ATGM [France]

VBL Recce [France]

VBR [France]

VCAC Mephisto [France]

VCI T.20/13 [France]

Vextra 105 [France]

VOA [France]

Fennek [Germany]

Jaguar 1 (HOT) [Germany]

Jaguar 1A3 [Germany]

Jaguar 2 (TOW) [Germany]

Kanonenjagdpanzer [Germany]

Leopard 1A0 [Germany]

Leopard 1A1 [Germany]

Leopard 1A2 [Germany]

Leopard 1A3 [Germany]

Leopard 1A4 [Germany]

Leopard 1V [Germany]

Luchs [Germany]

Leopard 2A0 [Germany]

Leopard 2A1 [Germany]

Leopard 2A6 [Germany]

Leopard 2A7 [Germany]

Leopard 2A7+ [Germany]

Marder 1 (with MILAN) [Germany]

Marder 1A1(+) [Germany]

Marder 1A1(-) [Germany]

Marder 1A1A [Germany]

Marder 1A1A2 [Germany]

Marder 1A2 [Germany]

Marder 1A3 [Germany]

Marder 1A5 [Germany]

Pionierpanzer 3 Kodiak [Germany]

Puma IFV [Germany]

Raketenjagdpanzer 1 [Germany]

Raketenjagdpanzer 2 [Germany]

Wiesel 1 recce [Germany]

Wiesel 1 MK20 [Germany]

Wiesel 1 TOW [Germany]

Wiesel 2 Engineer [Germany]

Wiesel 2 Command Post [Germany]

Wiesel 2 FOV [Germany]

Wiesel 2 [Germany]

M60/Samsam [iran]

Achzarit [israel]

Sho't [israel]

Magach [israel]

M60/Perah [israel]

Sabra [israel]

Merkava I [israel]

Merkava IIA [israel]

Merkava IIB [israel]

Merkava IIC [israel]

Merkava III [israel]

Merkava III BAZ [israel]

Merkava III Dor-Dalet [israel]

Merkava IV [israel]

Merkava IVM [israel]

Nagmachon [israel]

Nakpadon [israel]

Namer [israel]

Puma CEV [israel]

Wolf [israel]

M60 Phoenix [Jordan]

C1 Ariete [italy]

Ariete Mk 2 [italy]

Dardo IFV [italy]

Type 10 MBT [Japan]

Type 61 MBT [Japan]

Type 70 APC [Japan]

Type 74 MBT [Japan]

Type 89 IFV [Japan]

Type 90 MBT [Japan]

Type 96 APC [Japan]

YPR-765 pri [Netherlands]

YPR-765 pri.50 [Netherlands]

YPR-765 prat [Netherlands]

Chonma-ho MBT [North Korea]

M1992 APC [North Korea]

Pokpung-ho MBT [North Korea]

VTT-323 APC [North Korea]

Al-Khalid MBT [Pakistan]

Al-Zarrar MBT [Pakistan]

BWP Puma [Poland]

KTO Rys [Poland]

KTO Irbis [Poland]

PT-91 Twardy [Poland]

OT-62 APC [Poland/Czechoslovakia]

OT-64 SKOT [Poland]

SPG Kalina {Poland]

Type 59 MBT [PRC]

Type 63 APC [PRC]

Type 69 MBT [PRC]

Type 77 APC [PRC]

Type 79 MBT [PRC]

Type 80 MBT [PRC]

Type 85 MBT [PRC]

Type 86 IFV [PRC]

Type 88 MBT [PRC]

Type 89 APC [PRC]

Type 92 IFV [PRC]

Type 90-II MBT [PRC]

Type 96 MBT [PRC]

Type 97 IFV [PRC]

Type 98 MBT [PRC]

Type 99 MBT [PRC]

YW-531H APC [PRC]

ZBD-97 IFV [PRC]

ZBD2000 IFV [PRC]

BMD-4 [Russia]

BMP-T [Russia]

BTR-90 [Russia]

BTR-T IFV [Russia]

Kurganets-25 [Russia]

T-14 Armata MBT [Russia]

T-15 Armata IFV [Russia]

T-72B2 [Russia]

T-72B3 [Russia]

T-72B3M [Russia]

T-90 [Russia]

T-90A [Russia]

T-90S [Russia]

T-90AM [Russia]

T-90MS [Russia]

K1 MBT [south Korea]

K1A1 MBT [south Korea]

K2 Black Panther MBT [south Korea]

K200 IFV [south Korea]

K21 IFV [[south Korea]

VEC [spain]

BvS-10 [sweden]

Bandvagn 206 [sweden]

Pansarbandvagn 301 [sweden]

Pansarbandvagn 302 [sweden]

Strv-103 [sweden]

Piranha I [switzerland]

Piranha II [switzerland]

Piranha-IIIH [switzerland]

Centurion Mk 1 [uK]

Centurion Mk 2 [uK]

Centurion Mk 3 [uK]

Centurion Mk 5 [uK]

Centurion Mk 5/1 [uK]

Centurion Mk 5/2 [uK]

Centurion Mk 6 [uK]

Centurion Mk 6/1 [uK]

Centurion Mk 6/2 [uK]

Centurion Mk 7/1 [uK]

Centurion Mk 7/2 [uK]

Centurion Mk 8/1 [uK]

Centurion Mk 8/2 [uK]

Challenger 1 [uK]

Challenger 1 IP [uK]

Challenger 2 [uK]

Challenger 2E [uK]

Chieftain Mk 2 [uK]

Chieftain Mk 5 [uK]

Chieftain Mk 10 [uK]

Chieftain Mk 11 [uK]

Chieftain 800 [uK]

Chieftain 900 [uK]

FV432 APC [uK]

FV438 Swingfire [uK]

Saracen APC [uK]

Saxon APC [uK]

Scorpion recce [uK]

Scout SV recce [uK]

Scout SV Protected Mobility Recce Support [uK]

Spartan APC [uK]

Striker AT [uK]

Warrior (FV510) [uK]

Desert Warrior [uK]

Warrior (Capability Sustainment Programme) [uK]

BTR-4 [ukraine]

BTR-94 [ukraine]+

T-64BM2 [ukraine]

T-64U [ukraine]

T-64BM Bulat [ukraine]

T-80UD [ukraine]

T-80UM [ukraine]

T-84 [ukraine]

T-84 Oplot-M [ukraine]

T-80BVD [ukraine]

LVTP-7 [uS]

AAVP-7A1 [uS]

Joint Light Tactical Vehicle [uS]

M1A1(HA+) [uS]

M1A1AIM [uS]

M1A2 (Baseline) [uS]

M1A2S [uS]

M114 APC [uS]

M1126 Stryker APC [uS]

M1127 Stryker Recce [uS]

M1128 Stryker Mobile Gun System [uS]

M1129 Stryker Mortar Carrier [uS]

M1130 Stryker Commander's Vehicle [uS]

M1131 Stryker Fire Support Vehicle [uS]

M1132 Stryker Engineer Squad Vehicle [uS]

M1134 Stryker Anti-Tank Guided Missile Vehicle [uS]

M48 [uS]

M48A1 [uS]

M48A3 [uS]

M48A5 [uS]

M60 [uS]

M60A1[uS]

M60A1 Rise Passive [uS]

M60A2 [uS]

M60A3 [uS]

M60A3 TTS [uS]

M551 [uS]

M-ATV [uS]

M2A0/M3A0 [uS]

M2A1/M3A1 [uS]

M2A2 [uS]

M2A3 [uS]

BMD-1 [uSSR]

BMD-2 [uSSR]

BMD-3 [uSSR]

BMP-1 IFV [uSSR]

BMP-2 IFV [uSSR]

BMP-3 IFV [uSSR]

MT-LB APC [uSSR]

2S1 [uSSR]

BRDM-2AT [uSSR]

BTR-D [uSSR]

BTR-60 APC [uSSR]

BTR-70 APC [uSSR]

MT-LB/FO [uSSR]

PRP-3 [uSSR]

PT-76 [uSSR]

T-55 [uSSR]

T-55A [uSSR]

T-55M

T-55AD [uSSR]

T-55MV [uSSR]

T-62D [uSR]

T-62M [uSSR]

T-64 [uSSR]

T-64A [uSSR]

T-64B [uSSR]

T-64BV [uSSR]

T-64BM2 [uSSR]

T-72 [uSSR]

T-72A [uSSR]

T-72AV [uSSR]

T-72B [uSSR]

T-72BV [uSSR]

T-72M1V [uSSR]

T-80 [uSSR]

T-80A/Obj. 219A [uSSR]

T-80B [uSSR]

T-80BV [uSSR]

M-84 [Yugoslavia]

M-84A [Yugoslavia]

M-84AB [Yugoslavia]

Canada never had the LAV-25, we have and in the sim LAV3 (NZLAV), you might be thinking of the Coyote .The Bison is the same as the Ausy LAV one.

The Cougar would be nice, I commanded one for 15 years, ah the memories...

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Canada never had the LAV-25, we have and in the sim LAV3 (NZLAV), you might be thinking of the Coyote .The Bison is the same as the Ausy LAV one.

The Cougar would be nice, I commanded one for 15 years, ah the memories...

I listed by country of manufacture. Isn't LAV-25 from GDLS-Canada?

Also, you're saying the Bison is superfluous, given that we have a crewable ASLAV?

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Here's one not on the list The 2S25 Sprut-SD

Done.

Once this list is deemed "final," I'll open polling. Originally, I was going to do this as a Google Docs poll, but that is potentially open to abuse. So, I'll start a new thread, and everyone can put up a post listing the desired vehicle types and the number of votes (out of 10) they wish to allocate to such vehicles.

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