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Eisenschwein

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  1. I was told we would never use them because the WP had plotted their exact locations and would obliterate them with concentrated artillery fire as they were crossing the border.

    In the mid 80´s we have forwarded Ammo- and Fuel Dumps, but not in forward GDP Positions.

    Bundeswehr did it this way (we called NATO Alarm) move out of the Garrison, get Battle ready and grab your Ammo and Fuel (100 %), move by Train to your GDP Room.

    A second 100% Ammoload is transported by the Ammo Group of each Battalion to the GDP Room (That were Areas 25 - 30 Km behind the Borderline).

    In the Mid 80´s we have minimum one Time a Year a little visit in our GDP Rooms, certainly in civil Clothes and with taped Number plates and Tactical Signs ;-)

    May be a good starting is this Link:

    http://www.orbat85.nl/order-of-battle/nato-command-structure.html#northag

    It´s about 1 NL Corps/NORTHAG

    By the way I serve in PzBtl 74 / PzGrenBrig 7 / 3. Panzerdivision / I Korps (GE) / NORTHAG

    Here is another Link (sorry only in German) about the Plannings of the GDR.

    Start on Page 20:

    http://www.vtg.admin.ch/internet/vtg/de/home/dokumentation/publik_zeitrschr/military_power_revue.parsys.79525.downloadList.98418.DownloadFile.tmp/gesamtausgabempr211.pdf

  2. Tjay I respect this ban, sometimes it is better to Stop Things than let it escalate more.

    DA: It´s OK for me, but I thought it would be of interest for the commercial Users of SB too.

    Comes Time comes Map, perhaps if a other User ask for it.

    So give me virtual Five, have a virtual Beer and have a new start.

  3. What part of "No more political Discussion" you don´t understand ?

    There's a kind of red herring that often gets introduced into these discussions of the kind like "it's a myth that all Germans were concentration camp guards" or something like that.

    That's not at all what this is about. I'm sorry, but Germany was an aggressor in World War2, and the stated goals by the leadership are plain for everyone to see. Germany was not a victim.

    Some people may have gotten caught up in it and then regretted it later, some claim that they didn't really know what was going on, others say they were just following orders or they had no choice but their leadership said that the Germans were a master race and that everyone else was going to suck on it. They did not state it even in subtle terms who the internal enemies of Germany were. They said this openly. Don't kid yourselves. To be a member of the Nazi party is a commitment to this ideology, this the type of person who believes in it, or is pragmatic enough to know there's a more beneficial future or career in it. Either way the responsibility has to begin with someone. It's almost like none of it happened, because everyone says it wasn't their fault. Let's just say for a moment that not all Germans knew about the holocaust or knew what was going on. Everyone knows it now- so why is this a problem to deny?

    It's one thing to study history or to play computer simulations, it's another to kind of elicit a kind of sympathetic tone for someone like this because his headstone was stolen. That is a bit strange, except that it probably comes from a kind of sympathetic position, one that's a bit revisionist.

    You'll notice that there tends to be a lot less admiration and hero worship for the Italian fascists or the Japanese. There's a kind of 'coolness' for the Germans that a lot of people still seem to pick up on. There's something about the personality cult or the uniforms or the ideology or the organization or the symbolism or the equipment that still look cool that really doesn't happen for the other parties in the War. It's definitely noticeable.

    Or is it just the deep hate against all from Germany ? If so take a look what your Country did the last 60 Years.

  4. Nice start of a endless Discussion here.

    It´s to easy to belief what BBC an History Channel said.

    But if you don´t want to research, belief it:

    - Wittmann was a Tank ace (No, not even a good Tank Commander)

    - All NSDAP Members are hardcore Nazi´s (No)

    - All Germans know about the Holocaust (No)

    - All Soldiers know about Holocaust (No)

    - 007 were killed by a Firefly (No)

    - All Waffen SS Soldiers worked in a KZ (No)

    But now let´s start the Discussion......

    Btw I´m not a Nazi, but all of my Family must be one, I´m just interested in (the correct) History.

  5. Sure you´r right, if a Tank move (lets say) 200 Km the Track is hot, but the rest of the Tank is much more hot.

    So the Temperature of Track is not significance in a TIS ?! And I think that was the Question in this Thread ......

  6. We are talking about Tracks, not Wheels!

    Grenny's got it.

    If a tank is in the shade of a tree for example and stays there long enough to have it's treads become the same ambient temperature as the ground it's on, but then drives out of the shade and into the hot sun/ground for example, the treads will eventually acquire the temperature of the warmer ground and show up brighter on a thermal imager as well.

    You have to imagine the heat being transferred from the warm ground onto the rubber pads, and the metal and other parts that consist of the treads.

    Long video but in the first minute on the right side, you can see for example how the cool tire acquired a black hot spot where it was in contact with the warmer pavement when he first drives off with his motorcycle. And then the subsequent heat distribution to the entire tire as he rides on the pavement.

    https://youtu.be/uMS74FQkNyU

  7. The Tracks will ( mostly ) have the same Temperature the Tank has, so no significant higher Temperature as the Rest of the Tank.

    Under normal circumstances the Track will be cooler than the Rest of the Tank, because of cooling down while touching the Ground and cooling while moving at high Speed at the Hull side.

    The "Temperature Transfer" at the Drive Sprocket is that minimal, that you do not notice it at a TIS...

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