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  1. So it seems that first unit that receives newly upgraded Leopard 2A4's to Leopard 2PL standard is 1st Armored Brigade stationing in Warsaw capital city. At this moment around 8 tanks should be handed over to the Polish Army, so two fill platoons. 1st Armored Brigade will use a combination of 105 Leopard 2A5's and 14 Leopard 2PL's. While rest of the Leopard 2A4's, which is 128 tanks will be also upgraded to Leopard 2PL standard and will be used by 10th Armored Cavalry Brigade. Also these photos are proof that Leopard 2PL's handed over to 1st Armored Brigade are at their first excercices at Nowa Dęba Training Area.
  2. When it comes to Poland, new tank that most likely just like it's program will be codenamed Wilk (Wolf), would gradually replace all currently used tank types in Polish Armed Forces inventory. So first to be replaced are T-72M and T-72M1 tanks (currently overhauled and modified to T-72MR and T-72M1R standard). Second in line to be replaced are PT-91 tanks. Then Leopard 2A4/Leopard 2PL tanks and last ones will be Leopard 2A5's. We can assume that first to receive new tanks would be 11th Armored Cavalry Division with it's 10th and 34th Armored Cavalry Brigades. So we can estimate that first batch of tanks would be around 250. All Leopard 2's (Leopard 2A4/Leopard 2PL and Leopard 2A5) can be then moved to the 18th Mechanized Division. While 12th and 16th Mechanized Divisions in time would replace their T-72 and PT-91 tanks with new vehicle. So 18th Mechanized Division would be last to be rearmed. This means that if MoD would want to keep current number of tank battalions, Poland would need to manufacture around 800-1000 new tanks. These numbers include both tanks in active service + tanks used for training + tanks in reserve stocks. Polish Army have 58 tanks in a single tank battalion. Also as I have contact with chief editor of Armadne Noviny military magazine from Czech Republic, it seems that Czechs are greatly interested in development of K2PL. So some export potential is there for various countries that are around us. I also forgot to add. Our IFV Borsuk (Badger) program is moving forward as well. At the moment there is one technology demonstrator and two prototypes build. The latest prototype is scheduled to be tested at Drawko Pomorskie Training Area (proving grounds) this month. Here is a photo of that last prototype hull during welding process. It is interesting to note that Borsuk have spaced armor in front of it's hull. This empty cavity can have various purposes, it can hold a fuel tank, or perhaps it is completely empty to increase vehicle buoyancy when it is swimming as it is amphibious vehicle. Borsuk hull from the front is said to be completely immune to AP ammo in 30x165mm calliber typical for Russian 30mm 2A42 and 2A72 autocannons. Turret is completely unmanned Polish ZSSW-30 turret armed with 30mm Mk44S Bushmaster II, 7.62mm UKM-2000C coaxial machine gun, and 2x Spike LR ATGM's. It is also said that HSW started some development work on a second version of Borsuk IFV, which will be a heavy IFV, however it is still in early R&D phase and there is still no official requirement for it. Also Leopard 2A4's are being now upgraded to Leopard 2PL standard. 5 Leopard 2PL tanks had been already delivered to Polish Army, 3 more are awaiting to be handed over, and more are being upgraded at ZMBŁ factory. One of the 5 first tanks was shown at MSPO 2020. T-72MR and T-72M1R tanks are also being delivered to the Army.
  3. Huyndai Rotem presented this year at MSPO 2020 expo, their redesigned K2 as K2PL for Polish Army. Changes in design: 1. Driver station moved to the hull center longitudinal axis. 2. Hull ammo storage will be moved to a new isolated magazine with blow off panels between turret and engine compartment. 3. Reinforced armor protection, especially on sides of the turret and hull. 4. Turret is enlarged. 5. Weight increases from 55 metric tons of basic K2 to +/- ~60 metric tons for K2PL. As for armor physicall thickness, it is most likely something like this: Turret front - ~900-1000mm. Turret sides - ~300-400mm. Hull front - ~700-800mm. Hull sides - ~40-80mm hull sides + ~200-300mm heavy side skirts. Turret roof also is reinforced vs artillery submunitions. Hyundai Rotem says they offer Poland 100% transfer of technology and full license with rights for export. Besides MBT variant, Hyundai Rotem is working also on ARV, AEV and AVLB based on K2PL. This is extremely interesting offer, but more perfected design and more informations will most likely be disclosed in 2021 during next edition of MSPO expo.
  4. ere we can see addon armor and ballast plates thickness, these are welded to turret front of M1A2SEPv2's equipped with Trophy HV active protection system. It also shows how much armor was factory standard thickened in M1A2SEPv3. We estimated with my friend these addon plates are ~160-180mm thick and M1A2SEPv3 front turret armor is turret more or less thicker by such value compared to previous M1A1 and M1A2 variants. Obviouslu this is only estimation, but the plate even seen by naked eye, is obviously thicker than 100mm.
  5. AFAIK all 3rd generation MBT's have the same turret ring diameter. However other factors as you said may come in to play, like hull and turret geometry. This is why Leopard 2 and Leclerc hybrid needed turret adaptor, because Leopard 2 hull roof is going upwards, and could thus interfere with Leclerc turret rotation capability as the turret is not designed for such hull geometry. We only know at the moment that current British Army requirement that is a must is a 120mm smoothbore gun for Challenger 2 Mk2 (LEP). So Rheinmetall turret is already taken as a basis for tank upgrade. Will UK MoD take 130mm gun is a different story.
  6. So it seems a new turret developed by Rheinmetall for Challenger 2 Mk2 (LEP) program is highly modular design. It can accept addon armor, a new 130mm smoothbore gun Rh130/L51 and an autoloader. So new turret exists, so we can assume that this might be a turret offered by Rheinmetall as upgrade proposal for various MBT's, like Leopard 2.
  7. M1002 practice round hit in to CITV and loader machine gun mount. If it would hit directly in to armor, damages would be smaller and most likely loader would not be wounded.
  8. 3rd Armored Brigade Combat Team, 1st Cavalry Division received their newest M1A2SEPv3's. Meanwhile from Army Prepositioned Stock in Germany and Netherlands, US Army sends 30 additional M1A2SEPv2's reffited with Trophy HV active protection system to Poland. We have confirmed that that least 8 tanks will have Trophy HV radar and interceptor modules installed, while all tanks have electronics for the system already mounted.
  9. And again US Army plans are misunderstood. Yes OMFV will be optionally (un)manned for greater flexibility, however besides manned vehicles, also a family of robotic combat vehicles (RCV) will be fielded, including RCV-L (Light), RCV-M (Medium) and RCV-H (Heavy). The manned vehicles will be: 1. OMFV (Optionall (un)Manned Fighting Vehicle) the new IFV that will replace the Bradley. 2. OMT (Otionally (un)Manned Tank) the new MBT that will replace the Abrams. 3. AMPV (Armored Multi Purpose Vehicle) a replacement for M113 family of vehicles. 4. MPF (Mobile Protected Firepower) a new light tank. And these manned vehicles will be supported by RCV's. PS. And here are some designs I found, and I assume these are some initial notional designs for the new OMT tank. So crew (2 or 3) in hull, hull have super thick front armor + unmanned turret.
  10. I think this is a bit misleading terminology. To better understand the idea is to name it, optionally unmanned. Which means that normally vehicle operates manned, with crew inside. However if it is necessary, crew can get out of vehicle, and control it via terminal they take with themselfs. This gives more flexibility to vehicle and used tactics.
  11. Recently Secretary of the US Army published photos from his visit at GDLS HQ. These photos presents GDLS prototypes for MPF (Mobile Protected Firepower) (light tank) program and OMFV (Optionally Manned Fighting Vehicle) (new IFV) program. MPF prototype: OMFV prototype:
  12. I would want to report a bug. It seems that CITV in autoscan mode is not compensating to turret counterotation as it should IRL. I have the latest version of SB Pro PE.
  13. It seems we can see first M1A2SEPv2 tanks upgraded with series production, Trophy HV active protection system, heading for Defender Europe 2020. We can see armored boxes on turret roof, that probably contains electronics for Trophy HV. Also notice additional plates, which are most likely counterweights to better balance the turret, when Trophy HV is mounted. These plates might also serve as additional armor, M1A2SEPv3 does not need these additional counterweight/armor plates on turret front, cause it have already, thicker, reinforced front turret armor. These vehicles are in long range transport, so this is why modules containing Trophy radars, launchers and spare interceptor magazines with autoloaders are not seen, these are transported separately.
  14. Fresh M1A2SEPv3's from factory.
  15. AFAIK 9M133 Kornet ATGM penetration for newest versions will range from 1100 to 1300mm RHA depending on steel target characteristics, for example hardness, and also it's design (homogeneus, spaced, composite, passive, NERA/NxRA). I understand the purpose of it's characteristics in SB, but it might be overestimated. It's not, 9M133 Kornet is a 152mm calliber, BMP-3 uses 100mm gun-launcher to launch it's ATGM's which are of different type and with lesser capability.
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