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  1. Syrian army training (armor in the first 6 minutes) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/25th_Special_Mission_Forces_Division
  2. M48/M60 and T-54/55/62 popped their turrets much more often than Shot Cal. Unlike the others, the Shot Cal had no main gun rounds stored above turret ring. In addition, the original British turret control system was electric, as opposed to the Cadillac Gage hydraulic system on the M48 (A2 and onwards) and M60, which made the Shot Cal Alef (1970) much less flammable. OTOH, the Cadillac Gage system had much superior performance, so the IDF installed it nonetheless on Shot Cal Bet (1975/6). As a result, in the 1982 war the burn injury rates among IDF Centurion crews and among M48/M60 crews were similar, as opposed to the significant difference observed in 1973. M60A1 M48A3 M48A2C
  3. Ths SU-100 picture in the video at 11:10 was taken near Suez city during the 1973 war. The vehicle is painted with the 3-tone (sand yellow, brown, black) camouflage scheme, the standard scheme of Egyptian army AFVs in 1973. The picture at 10:50 looks genuine from 1956, with an all-yellow paint scheme and a crescent marking. British army Centurions, French army M47s and AMX-13s followed the paratroopers in Port Said: The first and last Israeli combat paratroop drop also took place in the 1956 conflict, at the eastern end of the Mitla Mountain Pass. In later conflicts the planned paratroop drops always got aborted, for being megalomanic or for other reasons. One example is the planned drop of the reserve 55th paratroop brigade at Sharm Ash-Sheikh in 1967, which became unnecessary when 4 AMX-13s and one jeep were landed there from the sea and found that the defenders had already abandoned the place. However, the paratroopers didn't remain frustrated for long, as they were assigned with a much more prestigious mission.
  4. Not regarding a particular field test in specific conditions, but rather general impression following years of service. Some saw their own tank's tracks being replaced during their service. Others got a brand-new M60A1 RISE instead of a 15-year-old worn-out M60. Of course the IDF did execute many mobility tests for the different types of tanks in service, in many different locations. Generally, the T-54/55/62 prevailed over the western designs. The M48 and M60 with rubber tracks were faster than the Centurion in the Sinai desert, but in rocky terrain the Centurion was far better. For this reason many M60s had their T97/142 tracks replaced with Merkava tracks, starting in the mid-80s. My understanding is that the T142's major advantage over the T97 (which is considerably lighter, BTW) was endurance, not performance.
  5. I've heard veterans claim that the M48/M60 were actually faster (in desert terrain) with their old T97 tracks than the later M60 versions with T142 tracks. Does anyone have similar experience? The M48A3 looks quite fast in the desert, see 1:00 for example:
  6. Sorry, I haven't read them so I can't compare. The sample pages of the Desert Eagle Magach 3 book look great and cover many subjects - the Six Day War (M48A2C), the Attritrition War in Sinai, the Yom Kippur War in Sinai and the crossing into Egypt, tanks with ERA, tanks at the junkyard before melting, interior (gunner and driver positions) pictures, etc. The Desert Eagle Publishing series is mostly about modern vehicles. They are largely based on pictures taken during field training in the last years by Michael Mass, one of the publishers, who also happens to be the Latrun Armor Museum curator. The old Magach 3 and 6A pictures are the exceptions.
  7. There is a whole series of these books by Dr. Robert Manasherob of SabIngaMartin Publications: http://www.sabingamartin.com/index.html Two more about Centurions (earlier versions and later versions) and others about Merkavas, M48s, T-54/55/62s, etc. The books are meant for modellers but are also very interesting for armor enthusiastics.
  8. Thank you for the enlightening answer. Does anyone know how did that original, non-ballistic reticle looked like? AFAIK the Israeli Centurions, along with the 105 mm guns they received in the mid-60s, they got a GPS identical to that of the M48: It was nicknamed "NATO Cross" in the IDF. Modified versions were introduced along the years (such as this one). The range drum was kept fully utilized until the Centurions were installed with a LRF, starting in the mid-80s. In its last version, the range drum had ballistic range columns for L-28, L-52, smoke, HESH, HEAT, Flechette, and coax mg.
  9. Several sources I've read refer to a range drum that is used by the Centurion gunner to input the range before firing. Its use sounds quite similar to what was implemented in SB for the T-55A and T-62, just with a separate range drum rather than markings on the GPS itself. The Sho't Cal model in SB is, however, different, as the gunner changes the aimpoint according to the aiming reticle on the GPS. What Centurion variant is the SB model based on (if it's OK to tell)?
  10. Deserted Israeli vehicles near Al-Qantara, after the 1973 war: https://reuters.screenocean.com/record/207795 These Centurions and M48A3s belonged to the 198th and 9th armored battalions respectively. They were destroyed on October 6th-7th, while trying to prevent the Egyptian 18th infantry division troops from crossing the Suez Canal. Close-up on a 105 mm APDS round is at 0:42.
  11. Another reunion: Yair Littwitz wrote a book about his 1973 war experience as a reserve M60A1 platoon leader in the 87th armored reconnaissance battalion (and as a company CO in the 79th armored battalion, to which he joined after the 87th was written off in the Chinese Farm). He named the book after his tank's registration number, 817831. The M60A1-equipped formations, the reserve 600th armored brigade and 87th armored reconnaissance battalion, suffered heavy losses during the war. There were also many cases of officers having to swap their lightly-damaged or broken-down tank with a subordinate's tank, in order to keep leading their formation. 817831 was one of the few M60A1s (alongwith 817701, which later became the Sabra prototype) that kept running along the whole war without replacing any crewmember and without suffering disabling damage. It was the only tank to do so in the 87th battalion. After the book came out, Littwitz joined a group of veterans in a quest for their old wartime tanks. A visit to a huge IDF tank scrapyard had brought up some emotional findings for others, but 817831 was not there. However, a while later, 817831 was found at a remote IDF base in southern Israel, stored in a pretty good shape (as opposed to the ones at the scrapyard). For some reason, the tank was then selected to be exhibited in the Latrun Armor Museum, in its 1973 configuration. Works took place to remove the upgrades which were added along the years and even a M19 cupola was obtained in order to get the original looks back (by 1973 most M48s were already fitted with the Israeli cupola, but all M60s still had the original one). Notable imperfections remain, though: T142 tracks instead of T97, larger turret basket, mixture of M60 aluminum (with ribs) and M48 steel (without ribs) road wheels. BTW 1: Littwitz also served as a platoon leader during the 1967 war, in the only M48A3 company in the IDF at that time. Combining AVDS-1790 engines and M68 main guns, these were the most advanced tanks in the fleet and were responsible (alongside a M48A2C company) for the annihilation of an Egyptian IS-3 heavy tank battalion at the Rafah Gap (which the main passage between Israel and the Sinai Peninsula). BTW 2: Latrun has several more exhibits with unique individual history: the first tank that crossed the Suez Canal (M48A3 no. 818577), Avigdor Kahalani's Centurion (no. 815152) from the Valley of Tears and the latest addition, the first tank (Sherman) that reached the walls of the Old City of Jerusalem in the 1967 war. The Sherman arrived about a month ago from a UK private collector, after it was sold to Uganda during the 1970s. In a shocking coincidence, the TC passed away at the same day his old tank came back to Israel.
  12. From Google Books, about the Egyptian theater in the Yom Kippur war: The Egyptian Strategy for the Yom Kippur war: An Analysis by Dani Asher Soldier in the Sinai: A General's account of the Yom Kippur War by Major General Emanuel Sakal (IDF 52nd armored battalion CO during the war) At the Decisive Point in the Sinai: Generalship in the Yom Kippur War by General Jacob Even (IDF 143rd armored division XO during the war) and Colonel Simcha B. Maoz
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