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Just now, Damian90 said:

 

During MSPO 2022 in Kielce, Poland, I talked with GDLS and US Army representatives, all 250 M1A2SEPv3's for Poland will be new builds, not older tanks upgraded. GDLS still have capability to build new tanks. This was Polish Army requirement, that all these tanks will be 100% brand new, which I also confirmed with spokesman of Armaments Agency responsible for procurement with Land Forces Inspectorate.

I knew they had the capability, but the timeframe? And that supply chain issues we are all living with, good thing you don't need plywood or eggs...:)

Wait and see.

Just now, Damian90 said:

M1A1's in long term storage are mostly empty shells, that either way will need refurbishment, overhaul and at least partial modernization before they can be fielded by any army out there that might buy them.

 

Poland procured 116 M1A1FEP tanks with SCWS (Stabilized Commander Weapon Station) with AIDATS (Abrams Integrated Display And Targeting System) with slew-to-cue and RTS thermal sight with 3x, 6x and 9x magnification. So this works like CITV and gives commander hunter killer capability. These tanks also have BMS terminal and will use Sitaware BMS which was choosen for Polish Army M1 tanks.

Poland also procured 250 new build M1A2SEPv3 tanks. In future it is planned to upgrade these 116 M1A1FEP tanks to M1A2SEPv3 standard. Polish Army also plans to procure APS for M1 tanks, probably Trophy HV.

 

Deliveries of M1 tanks for Polish Army looks like this:

2023-2024 - 116 M1A1FEP.

2024/2025-2026 - 250 M1A2SEPv3.

Is the US building new tanks, my understanding that all "new" tanks are rebuilds as per

General Dynamics Land Systems has secured a production contract from the U.S. Army to upgrade 100 Abrams main battle tanks into the new M1A2 SEP v.3 configuration. The Army had earlier accepted the first of about a half-dozen initial production versions of the modernized main battle tank late last year.

Just now, Grenny said:

 

Just now, Grenny said:

 Are unable to read very simple forum rules? Or do you think you're so special that you need not adhere to them?

Being hatefull gets one no where in life, we were having a conversation here, then this....why?

Now this will be locked, or maybe this is the reason for your post (we are onto you)

Just now, Captain_Colossus said:

i have listened to several interviews with commonwealth and american citizens who have returned from fighting in ukraine, and the picture they give is much different than narratives in the press (or for that matter the typical internet discussion board); they have all stated that ukrainian commanders would regard the foreign fighters the most expendable, or that they were sent into the most dangerous situations in order to preserve ukranian nationals as much as possible if foreign units were available. they also point out the utter lack of experience the ukranian fighters had and were getting torn up; they were all being shuttled around to different hot spots (there are also stories many of them have tuberculosis and sent in regardless, infecting others), often getting vaporized on the way to battles rather than in the battles directly; all seem to agree that artillery and mortars are accounting for the most casualties are the most dangerous threats.

 

american policy makers have stated that the primary reason that M1 tanks are off the table because of the difficulty of maintaining them in local conditions, i.e., this would suggest repairs and replacement of tracks and powerpacks after running through their expected lifecycles before refit. are there other reasons couched in this explanation- possibly, but i do think that is a major factor if not the only one. i do not think the us is terribly interested in broken down or abandoned M1 tanks captured by the russians, which is what is being hinted or implied in these statements

 

 

captured by the russians

or sold on the black market, like other wpn systems showing uo in the mid east. Fuel would be a problem, I seem to recall a issue with energy in the EU, can't place my finger on why

Just now, Grenny said:

The days one could wonder if some people brains are still working get more and more when one reads psots by them...

Wounder what happened to your def minister, and that gas pipeline (X2)your tax dollars paid for, yes alot of people are woundering these days it seems.

I(psots)...?

I also don't understand why the Ukrainians seem so fixated on the leo2s? 

One possible reason.

Putin has stated they (Russia) wanted to de-militrize Ukraine, so maybe its the EU who is getting de-mililerized. Most if not all the EU's T-72's,BMP1/2 Arty vehs are now scrap on the battlefield thus the requirment for NATO AFV's.

Leo 2 and Challengers might be on the same list. They have reduced the M-777,humers,mraps, Javlins,Nlaws,UK Mraps, PZ2000 just to name a few, and they are not done yet, Bradlys are now up next, as well as M109's.

BO once stated" Russia has "esclation dominance", this has not changed.

Just now, Gibsonm said:

A mechanism so that power lines do not interfere with vehicle movement on roads.

 

 

Here the vehicle on a route (using follow roads Navmesh) has stopped and used its "collision avoidance" routine to avoid the power line stanchion, but goes off road.

 

I hear the sickening noise of the wheels spinning but thankfully it continues on.

 

looks like the base is under the road, thous causing a "issue", I would move back a bit ton avoid this. This I think is a map object placment issue and not a routing issue.  I have maps with this object issue before, and fixed.

I'll take a look at this request after the holidays and let you know.

Yes true, two different methods of getting a AFV/wpn platform into sevice. Long testing peroid, vs, short/ just good enough method due to other factors. 

I guess in time, decades from now we shall see what has worked out best for the end user, and tax payers with these two, but not limitded to systems.

In the times we live in presently ($$$$) , I'm leaning after seeing my, and other nations staying with the norm , the short production for testing that lasts a decade or longer, with time to work out issues may work out best.

I think that this issues was the same for WWII and other conflicts due to time restrants for large production runs. We are not in that constrant now , or are we?

As I understand the T-14 from Russian writings it is undergoing state trials, with some in the SMO. Given the small number of trial T-14's we will find out if it goes the same route as outher protypes ADATS,Puma etc. There may be a production run afterall, or a production start and issues found.  Testing the T-14 in the SMO (if true) is a hard core testing method, OR, the gold star in AFV testing , opinions may vary

I belive the German IRIS-T has had a same fate, right from testing, and low production to the SMO?

It's a crazy world we live in.

The  Piranha family of AFV's can be used for the Striker, Not a great deal of difference in them, close in use,mobility, etc.

Reversing direction, but it's muddy,

dismounts doing better

2 hours ago, mpow66m said:

The RU Army is just plain out get their asses handed to them.There is no doubt about it.

So "true", I hear they lost 20% (-/+) of their country, and 50% of their elec grid,  

" exhausted its supply of high-precision missiles"

Thats why the amount, and effects is growing, every report states "Their running out of missles", Yet the next attack has more.

"After mass mobilization"

BS recent mobiblezation of reserves is between 1.5 -1.7 %, 370k of total (25million) with much more avaib.

Pure BS

We can see the numbers increasing, only a idiot would think this is serious reporting.

Next we shall read they are using washing machine parts for hyper weponds....:)

all this from:  "said one of the sources of the newspaper. The reason, according to him"

I would think removing/replacing gears would be a easy fix if parts are carried, or in this case (reks ). I belive the smoothbore tubes are thin in compaired to rifled, neither is damage proof.

My concerns would be in the tube to FCS aligment, can't see hitting targets on first round now. It may be possibe that their system has this self repaire in the software (FSC).At any rate, it would be a visit to the tool monkeys for a look see and, then to the range to bore align the firing system to confirm.

 A experienced command (may) have a crew member ID"ing tube obstructions, forward would be the driver, if, the turret crew is facing their 6.

Tube interaction with trees is said to be a "thing"......so I'm told 

Vid discription as requested:

Z tanks firing at targets, reciving incoming fire, and returning fire in current SMO ,

Another vid of tank with drone team work.

Village was taken, the grinding down cont' as per the SMO breifing.

Take aways.........oops, was that a concrete pole we just hit?

6 hours ago, daskal said:

Was that a HEAT type of round?

7 hours ago, Bond_Villian said:

How are you able to identify the tank types? The footage is so blurry... they do both look like T72's of some stripe, but thats about it.

Also, thermals aren't necessarily used here....the target is point blank on a clear day.

Well, one could say all tanks there are T-72's, and would be correct to a certian extent, just varaints 

There is another vid of this engagment that is a bit (not much) clearer, and a short discription of said event. You may be mistaken on the thermals, many vids of thermals from drones, ground mounts atgms, T tanks etc.and, in various wave lengths in the visable spectrum. The purple device looks strange, but works.My guess, different manufactures.

2 hours ago, daskal said:

Tank on tank

Any further info on this?

T-72/64 caught looking at their 9 o'clock while advancing, while a drone guides a t-72B3  into a firing position using thermals. T-72B3 has a huge advantage combined with the overhead view. Reported this is how they D/L milita operate currently.

We often hear during online sessions when the Co asks for a status update (Sit rep) ..I have no tracks, FCS is gone, driver KIA, fuel leak...and I'm still firing into the enemy postions at their tanks. We use a long version, we Could use the MC.

It depends on the commander. On asking for a status, one may get "Just look at the map",  failure to communcate is why  missions fail for one side, and if  I may add, who to pick for your side, one wants the best transmitters of battle info, even though there is Emotional Damage to do so.

I have no issues with the current status.

1 hour ago, dejawolf said:

seems like there's a lot of fuss caused by some misunderstandings by perhaps some poor wording in steel beasts.

perhaps the word "killed" should be changed to "incapacitated" or "out of action" to reflect the state of the vehicle more accurately. 

especially since it's a "catch-all" for multiple simulated states, from "everyone inside are dead but vehicle can be repaired"  to "vehicle is dead and on fire"

Used by most armies at unit level sent to repair units.

Operational condition of an vehi indicating it can perform at least one and potentially all of its designated missions. Mission-capable is further defined as the sum of full mission-capable and partial mission-capable. Also called MC.

MC-1 fully MC

MC-2 user repairable 

MC-3 1st line repairs

MC-4 Repair depo required

MC-5 NON repairable (KIA)

In action in current conflict as per vids released. Might make it to the "wish list"....................................someday?

Assault on the fortified area of the V.S.U. behind the village of Disputable

T-72,BMP-1,BMP2 in action

https://rumble.com/v1njvwi-10.11.2022-chronicle-of-military-operations-russia-ukraine.html

My usual disclaimer.

1 hour ago, Mirzayev said:

 

Fixed it just for you, 12Alfa. I value your opinion. 

To late, got a deal on these babies...

On 10/8/2022 at 10:33 PM, Mirzayev said:

@F.T I'd give this a read: 

 

 

In short, a tank being destroyed by a near-miss from a 152mm HE shell isn't outside the realm of possibility. Especially when said unit is hit with 152 fragments. 

 

 

Shown here are the results of a test with a Bradley. Both the main gun and the TOW launcher are definitely inoperable. I'd imagine the track is pretty torn up as well.

 

 

Such as with this T-55, which was hit by fragmentation from a near-miss of a 155mm HE round impacting 30 meters away. 

 

 

Such as with this T-55, ya, I need new glasses