IrishHussar

What time??????? lol lol in fact LMFAO

Ha gotcha!!! Cut from another thread but your words, "4. Steel Beasts is a tool for a - gunnery and crew procedure training; here, the accuracy of armor models is of lesser importance" Only joking!!!

At the end of the day this is a wish list, a place to ask for future inclusions! Your reply is a balance of argument against that request. Thank you, I understand you argument but I dont personally agree with you. "It's also possible to play music with a saw, but no saw maker will start redesigning the tool based on the input of musicians." Bearing this in mind how tools are designed to be used and thereafter how they are used could be classed as intelectual developement. To hinder the use, albeit for unitended applications, is akin to burning books, well nearly. The use of the items requested is not even non millitary specific and Im sure the time to implement it is thousand times shorter than getting an individual to change his mind.

Q1. WHY would anyone possibly want to combine the disadvantages of live firings with the disadvantages of virtual gunnery? A1. I would like them included in order to make realistic range scenarios. Q2. You can have realistically looking targets for free. Why replace them with crude cardboard cartoons? A2. If virtual scenarios can be made to look realistic against a mandatory task that he has to do in the real world then they have value. If nothing else SB could be used in its basic form as a "Troop Fire Control" trainer saving thousands of pounds for the Army by bringing Troop/Platoon size units upto speed with economic use of ammunition. Q3. I thought we were training for combat, not other training events. A3. In todays modern Army soldiers do train for many events other than Combat. In my 23 years service, 1979 to 2002 a did more annual firing camps and training events than I did war fighting from my tank. With that experience I can assure you that using SB Pro and PE as a training tool for range periods/annual firing camps would be a very useful tool. Also a soldier in todays army has his ability to command an AFV measured, in part, by his performance on the range. I do see your point about the degradation of the simulation from a tactical trainer to something of lesser tactical input. I disagree with that point as I am not asking you to delete anything but just to add a facility that is already built. Can I ask who and how these "crude cardboard cartoons" were justified for the Professional Edition??

How about range target screens??? I would like that feature transfered from the Pro Version to the PE version please??

That's an awefull lot of Senior NCOs per each Plt!!

Not tonight then??

So just to clarify a few points for you. SB Pro PE models the Challenger 2 tank, Operation Granby units used Challenger (1). The FCS are drastically different between the two vehicles. I can't give much informed input about CR2 FCS as I only used it for a short time over 20 years ago however on Challenger 1 I know the facts inside out. Challenger 1 when firing Hesh would give you a full balistic calculation out to 9999 metres. Further out you could use the Quadrant Fire Control (QFC) out to 14500ish.

Hi tanks for your patience, yes I will hopefully be back online for Sundays mission.

I am available this weekend, where ever you like MD. I have just spent two weeks at the heart of the Heavy Panzer Training area in Sennelager and after reading the book Tiger Battalion 507 feel honoured to be walking the very cobbles they trained and formed up on!!

Thats cool for me thankyou!!

Cool

In the words of the Jackson 5 "I'll be there"

Sorry to disappoint you all but I don't go away until Mon 25 Apr. I come back on Mon 09 May so unless something else gets in the way I am still available 😉

Yes please.