IrishHussar

Hi most indirect shoots are above 3000m, in order to get the elevation required you cannot in use your graticle pattern or balistic aiming marks. On the real vehicles you would then use equipments like a quadrant fire controllers which allow you to find the true horizontal level of the gun barrell and there after apply measured angles of elevation. This then gives you the ability, after accessing the fall of shot, to apply measured corrections in order to bring accurate fire onto the target. In this sim we dont have that pysical equipment so true semi indirect or indirect fire is not really possible.

Hi are any of you guys travelling to this event??

Thanks MD, I can confirm my intention to take part this week!!

A21 to confirm please

D31 for me please?

Hi having sorted my map issues, reinstall along with map installer, I now have the correct map I will be attending tonight!!

Hi Im trying to connect to the Kanium TS channel but I am getting an error returned, it is a while since I have joined. Have you moved channels as I can join the Steelbeast channel ok??

I would like to man E24 please??

What time??????? lol lol in fact LMFAO

Ha gotcha!!! Cut from another thread but your words, "4. Steel Beasts is a tool for a - gunnery and crew procedure training; here, the accuracy of armor models is of lesser importance" Only joking!!!

At the end of the day this is a wish list, a place to ask for future inclusions! Your reply is a balance of argument against that request. Thank you, I understand you argument but I dont personally agree with you. "It's also possible to play music with a saw, but no saw maker will start redesigning the tool based on the input of musicians." Bearing this in mind how tools are designed to be used and thereafter how they are used could be classed as intelectual developement. To hinder the use, albeit for unitended applications, is akin to burning books, well nearly. The use of the items requested is not even non millitary specific and Im sure the time to implement it is thousand times shorter than getting an individual to change his mind.

Q1. WHY would anyone possibly want to combine the disadvantages of live firings with the disadvantages of virtual gunnery? A1. I would like them included in order to make realistic range scenarios. Q2. You can have realistically looking targets for free. Why replace them with crude cardboard cartoons? A2. If virtual scenarios can be made to look realistic against a mandatory task that he has to do in the real world then they have value. If nothing else SB could be used in its basic form as a "Troop Fire Control" trainer saving thousands of pounds for the Army by bringing Troop/Platoon size units upto speed with economic use of ammunition. Q3. I thought we were training for combat, not other training events. A3. In todays modern Army soldiers do train for many events other than Combat. In my 23 years service, 1979 to 2002 a did more annual firing camps and training events than I did war fighting from my tank. With that experience I can assure you that using SB Pro and PE as a training tool for range periods/annual firing camps would be a very useful tool. Also a soldier in todays army has his ability to command an AFV measured, in part, by his performance on the range. I do see your point about the degradation of the simulation from a tactical trainer to something of lesser tactical input. I disagree with that point as I am not asking you to delete anything but just to add a facility that is already built. Can I ask who and how these "crude cardboard cartoons" were justified for the Professional Edition??

How about range target screens??? I would like that feature transfered from the Pro Version to the PE version please??

That's an awefull lot of Senior NCOs per each Plt!!

Not tonight then??

So just to clarify a few points for you. SB Pro PE models the Challenger 2 tank, Operation Granby units used Challenger (1). The FCS are drastically different between the two vehicles. I can't give much informed input about CR2 FCS as I only used it for a short time over 20 years ago however on Challenger 1 I know the facts inside out. Challenger 1 when firing Hesh would give you a full balistic calculation out to 9999 metres. Further out you could use the Quadrant Fire Control (QFC) out to 14500ish.

Hi tanks for your patience, yes I will hopefully be back online for Sundays mission.

I am available this weekend, where ever you like MD. I have just spent two weeks at the heart of the Heavy Panzer Training area in Sennelager and after reading the book Tiger Battalion 507 feel honoured to be walking the very cobbles they trained and formed up on!!

Thats cool for me thankyou!!

Cool

In the words of the Jackson 5 "I'll be there"

Sorry to disappoint you all but I don't go away until Mon 25 Apr. I come back on Mon 09 May so unless something else gets in the way I am still available 😉

Yes please.

Yes good for me, thanks again MD.

Lt Gen Henry Lord Paget was in Command of Wellingtons Cavalry at Waterloo. He is famous for after having his leg shot away by a french cannonball he is credited with saying to Wellington " "By God, sir, I've lost my leg!", to which Wellington replied "By God, sir, so you have!" In True British tradition the leg was buried with full military honours.