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Hello Everyone, I am trying to create a CAD model of the Leopard 2 (A0-A4) to determine the approximate mass of the empty Leopard 2 turret shell. According to Spielberger the empty turret shell weighs 8,9 metric tons. At first i thought this was the weight without the special armor inserts but i was told by a Polish colleague of mine that that was the weight with the special armor inserts. So right now i am trying to create a CAD model of the empty Leopard 2 turret shell to determine its approximate weight and in turn the weight of its special armor inserts. I am using reference images, schematics, measurements of the actual vehicle, official documents to generate the model. In the end, the model will be an approximation but i am still trying to be as accurate as i can be. Now i would need constructive criticism /feed back to correct the most obvious flaws in my model. I would greatly appreciate your imput. Thank you all in advance! Empty turret shell during assembly: Turret with special armor inserts: My model so far (a work in progress):

Kanium Sunday 22nd of OCT 1800 UTC "Operation Ironhorse Stampede" by Apocalypse Where: Kanium TS : teamspeak3.i3d.net:10077 World clock 1800 UTC 1. SITUATION a. Enemy. The 774th Brigade Tactical Group (BTG) is established in a deliberate defense, in depth along the Akazi River with 2x BN's forward, and 1 in reserve. Each Battalion within the 774 BTG is composed of 9x Platoons of T80U tanks, 3x Platoons of BMP-3's, 1x Recon platoon (BRDM-2AT), 1x PLT of ZSU23/4, and 1x Platoon of 2S1 Artillery. Enemy forces also have mine and demolition capability - expect surface laid mines and be prepared to see blown bridges. b. Friendly forces will conduct an attack to defeat the 774 BTG, in order to allow friendly forces from 2nd Brigade to re-establish the international border. To the North, Team Apache will conduct an attack to fix the 2-774 BTG. Simultaneously, Team Kanium will attack to clear enemy forces along the Akazi River, and establish a foothold on OBJ BRAVO, in order pass elements from 2nd Battalion that will continue their attack to the East to defeat the 774 BTG . You have been provided with 1x Engineer platoon - although we do not assess a total destruction of all crossing sites - this will allow you additional mobility support Your Team has also been allocated 1x flight of Close Combat Aviation (2x AH-64 - 8x Hellfires) to establish an attack by fire position in the north) [TRIGGER by 66 or 65] 2. MISSION Team Kanium attacks to clear the 1-774 BTG between PL BLACK and PL GOLD in order to pass friendly forces for follow on operations. 3. EXECUTION a. Purpose. The purpose of this operation is to seize key terrain along the Akazi River, so that follow-on forces have freedom of movement. b. Key Tasks 1. Identify a suitable crossing site for follow on forces 2. Clear the 1-774 BTG 3. Seize OBJ BRAVO c. End State i. Terrain. OBJ BRAVO is seized ii. Friendly: Friendly forces are prepared to safely pass follow-on forces from 2nd Battalion. ii. Enemy: The 1-774 is cleared between PL BLACK and PL GOLD; unable to interfere with follow-on friendly forces. iii. Civilian: Minimal collateral damage and disruption to the civilian way of life. d. Fires 6x Tubes (On screen) Map Agjabedi Village Imshili Town

My newest sound mod has been uploaded to the mods section. A big thanks to @Gunslinger668 for the audio samples from his time during gunnery.

After the Leclerc mantlet 'debacle' I have grown somewhat suspicious of the mantlets of the tanks such as the Leopard 2A4, Challenger 2 and Abrams series of tanks. This thread is there to discuss the situation with the mantlets , their dimensions ,geometry, thickness and potential protection that they offer.