Jump to content

T-90 takes a TOW and wins


12Alfa

Recommended Posts

This T-90 most likely got it's turret armor pierced considering the place of hit.

 

e5798a0ea507a.png

 

Now about armor, T-90 uses the same turret and armor as T-72B, and it's nothing spectacular contrary to what UVZ propaganda want you to believe in.

 

e6d79257eb616.jpg

 

As you can see roof area is exposed, protected by relatively thin armor and there is no ERA in are where ATGM most likely hit.

 

2q2k29e.jpg

And here you have front, side and rear armor of T-72B and T-90 turret, as you can see armor in the hit area is also not spectacular.

 

IMHO armor was pierced, gunner was most likely injured, but majority of shaped charge and spall was absorbed by 1G46 gunner primary day sight, which is rather large.

 

1g46_950.jpg

 

 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Replies 124
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Top Posters In This Topic

Posted Images

8 minutes ago, Damian90 said:

Maybe, but gunner still bails out, and if there would be no penetration they would make a photo, they didn't and knowing propaganda practices this suggests that indeed armor was pierced.

Well... Hard facts are:

-Tank was hit with TOW missile

-Gunner bailed out

-There is a visible damage to day sight and left IR emitter

-Initial reaction in russian media is disproportional and hysterical.

 

The rest are speculations and propaganda activities conducted by interested parties.

Edited by Jartsev
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Other forums reporting that it was defeated by the reactive tile causing a upwards blast, then a stripping off of equipment on turret roof front to back without penetrating the basic armour. Guess we might never know what happened.

Internet experts are certainly weighing in on this, much like when the first M1's were take out, all kinds of reasons why this just could not be. Some people can't believe their nations tanks can be destroyed without going off the deep end.

Have to wait a few more month to see what develops.

Edited by 12Alfa
because I can
Link to comment
Share on other sites

 

 

3 hours ago, 12Alfa said:

Other forums reporting that it was defeated by the reactive tile causing a upwards blast, then a stripping off of equipment on turret roof front to back without penetrating the basic armour. Guess we might never know what happened.

Internet experts are certainly weighing in on this, much like when the first M1's were take out, all kinds of reasons why this just could not be. Some people can't believe their nations tanks can be destroyed without going off the deep end.

Have to wait a few more month to see what develops.

 

Again internet Forums are not ultimate source of true facts. Nor are video's posted by anyone on the internet.

 

Based on various online sources ,You can come up with your own theory , but in the end that's all it will ever be , a "theory". 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 hours ago, ashdivay said:

 

 

 

Again internet Forums are not ultimate source of true facts. Nor are video's posted by anyone on the internet.

 

Based on various online sources ,You can come up with your own theory , but in the end that's all it will ever be , a "theory". 

You are correct, but why is this a issue for you. Second the mil forum is for the mil and not open to the public, so the info is a bit more credible than most, but we are all allowed to believe what we want , another theory of mine.

 

Also can anyone confirm info I just got that the grenades

system won't operate with the hatches open.

Edited by 12Alfa
Because I can
Link to comment
Share on other sites

17 hours ago, TankHunter said:

The liver eaters have access to TOW-2A missiles. It is reasonable to believe that the missile used on the T-90 was a tandem warhead missile. On a related note does anyone know if previous versions of the TOW are still in use by anyone besides Iran and (maybe) Hez?

 

I think Iran has their own TOW ripoff called the Taphoon or something like that.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

7 hours ago, dejawolf said:

the same way USA is proud of it's fighter planes, Russia is in love with their tanks. 

F35 already considered obsolete and useless after a few trillion and to be replaced in 2030 or something like that.The multi role,can do it all concept and airframe is a gigantic bust.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 3/21/2016 at 5:03 PM, mpow66m said:

theres a couple of videos going around showing a T90(?) in Syria defeating 2 TOWs with their jamming capabilities.Not sure what the Russians call it,but both missles just floundered off and hit the ground.tried finding it but cant.

 

 

You can't 'jam' a tow missile. It's wire guided. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, 12Alfa said:

Correct, however as noted you can disrupt the signal that the receiver is looking for from the missile in earlier versions.

 

There's no receiver on the TOW missile.

 

It's wire guided. Only way to prevent that missile from hitting is target is to cut the wires.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

20 minutes ago, Apocalypse 31 said:

 

There's no receiver on the TOW missile.

 

It's wire guided. Only way to prevent that missile from hitting is target is to cut the wires.

Yes, An optical sensor on the sight continuously monitors the position of a light source on the missile relative to the line-of-sight, and then corrects the trajectory of the missile by generating electrical signals that are passed down two wires to command the control surface actuators.[ the guidance system will automatically transmit corrective commands to the missile through the wire , thous another light source is what is used to confuse the sight, ie Shtora

 

 

The receiver is in the sight on the tripod

Edited by 12Alfa
Link to comment
Share on other sites

it was a quick ref, If you want more info on how they work, I know you know where to find it. The way it works is no big secret, haven't been for years, and how to defeat the older ones as well has been known, thous the Soviet systems on their tanks, but you know this.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members
4 hours ago, Apocalypse 31 said:

You can't 'jam' a tow missile. It's wire guided. 

 

Tracked

Optically,

Wire guided (missile).

 

That's the name. You can't jam "the missile", but the optical tracker, and that's what Shtora does, successfully - at least with older missiles where the beacon code is known.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


×
×
  • Create New...