ChrisWerb Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 I have had mixed results with the AH-Q. One placed unrealistically close behind an enemy formation managed to take out four vehicles in quick succession with 70mm FFARs, however the other three stubbornly refused to use either TOW or 40mm AGL at any distance and one suffered the indignity of being shot down by a main gun hit from a BMP-1. Is there a secret to getting the AH-1Q to engage the target? The Mi-24 doesn't seem to suffer this problem when I employ it as OPFOR. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bond_Villian Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 3 hours ago, ChrisWerb said: placed unrealistically close This might have something to do with it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 7 hours ago, Bond_Villian said: This might have something to do with it? I think attack Helicopters behavior is a work in progress. Sometimes there lethal other times your screaming at the screen bloody fire. Unfortunately its no easy task to make them more realistic from what i have been informed If esim did they would have to implement radar for the AAA etc. Otherwise the gunship would rain supreme on the SB battlefield they could literally position them self at the edge of the map and pick off targets at will. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisWerb Posted November 13, 2016 Author Share Posted November 13, 2016 15 hours ago, Bond_Villian said: This might have something to do with it? I'm sorry - do you mean that it's necessary to go in inappropriately close to the target with them to get them to attack? Marko makes a good point about their RL ability to standoff at insane ranges and plink tanks, but I'd like attack helicopters to actually do stuff, even if relatively inneffectually. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 2 hours ago, ChrisWerb said: I'm sorry - do you mean that it's necessary to go in inappropriately close to the target with them to get them to attack? Marko makes a good point about their RL ability to standoff at insane ranges and plink tanks, but I'd like attack helicopters to actually do stuff, even if relatively inneffectually. Or even give the PE version players the same ability as the military version. IE. allow limited play-ability you can fire missiles etc in the military version admittedly the military version has much bigger maps. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocalypse 31 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 19 hours ago, Marko said: Or even give the PE version players the same ability as the military version. IE. allow limited play-ability you can fire missiles etc in the military version admittedly the military version has much bigger maps. WHAT? I wish we had fill-in sights like the RWS where we could manually engage with the choppers. Why is this not in PE? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 20 hours ago, Marko said: Or even give the PE version players the same ability as the military version. if you want all the features of the Mil Spec version, put your hand in your pocket and spend a LOT more than $125.00. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtyotJOTJIPAEFVJ Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 1 minute ago, Gibsonm said: if you want all the features of the Mil Spec version, put your hand in your pocket and spend a LOT more than $125.00. how much more tho? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Just now, jtyotJOTJIPAEFVJ said: how much more tho? Well each country's contract varies no doubt and you don't buy individual copies, but roughly $X00,000 or so for a licence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtyotJOTJIPAEFVJ Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 2 minutes ago, Gibsonm said: Well each country's contract varies no doubt and you don't buy individual copies, but roughly $X00,000 or so for a licence. Sounds like I should've applied to become a tank driver in the military 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocalypse 31 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 12 minutes ago, Gibsonm said: if you want all the features of the Mil Spec version, put your hand in your pocket and spend a LOT more than $125.00. Or eSim could give us features that are already built? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Pretty sure its like the motoring industry. The top end / racing people develop / pay for the new ideas and then eventually the average car gets it (e.g. air bags, fuel injection, etc.). eSim needs a return on investment and why should we as military customers pay for the dearer licence if it comes for free immediately in the "cheap" version? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocalypse 31 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 5 minutes ago, Gibsonm said: Pretty sure its like the motoring industry. The top end / racing people develop / pay for the new ideas and then eventually the average car gets it (e.g. air bags, fuel injection, etc.). eSim needs a return on investment and why should we as military customers pay for the dearer licence if it comes for free immediately in the "cheap" version? Good analogy, but aside from developer costs for programming, there aren't cost associated with parts. For example, air bags cost money for parts, maintenance, installation which drive the overall cost of a vehicle. The feature we're talking about is already built. The code itself doesnt make the product more expensive. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted November 14, 2016 Members Share Posted November 14, 2016 Everything I'm willing to share with the public about our business stategy I have already told multiple times. The Personal Edition will never have certain key features of the classroom version, period. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocalypse 31 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 5 minutes ago, Ssnake said: The Personal Edition will never have certain key features of the classroom version, period. So you're saying there's a chance? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grenny Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 33 minutes ago, Apocalypse 31 said: So you're saying there's a chance? I like your attitude :-) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 (edited) 4 hours ago, Gibsonm said: Pretty sure its like the motoring industry. The top end / racing people develop / pay for the new ideas and then eventually the average car gets it (e.g. air bags, fuel injection, etc.). eSim needs a return on investment and why should we as military customers pay for the dearer licence if it comes for free immediately in the "cheap" version? The ADF is only one of many customers Gibsonm Its interesting how much input you bring to this forum compared to the other military customers. Keep up the good work Edited November 15, 2016 by Marko 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisWerb Posted November 14, 2016 Author Share Posted November 14, 2016 (edited) Just an aside, but when I checked a recent AAR report I discovered that one AH-1Q had fought a duel with no less than four ZSU-23-4s at about 1000 metres and took them all out (IIRC all with 70mm Hydras), desipte taking a few hits itself. Groovy! Edited November 14, 2016 by ChrisWerb 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocalypse 31 Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 On 11/13/2016 at 5:04 PM, Marko said: Or even give the PE version players the same ability as the military version. Finally got my hands on the Pro version. Crewable choppers! Mi24 interior and AH1 interior. Fun stuff! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Wow. I thought you were winding me up till i seen the icons at the bottom of the pic. thanks for posting. Wont say any more, esim have made there position clear. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocalypse 31 Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 1 hour ago, Marko said: Wow. I thought you were winding me up till i seen the icons at the bottom of the pic. Nope. Laying into targets with 30mm, 2.75mm, and blasting targets from afar with Hellfires feels great....as expected. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 39 minutes ago, Apocalypse 31 said: Nope. Laying into targets with 30mm, 2.75mm, and blasting targets from afar with Hellfires feels great....as expected. I would like to be in a ZSU -23/24 or Gepard shooting back. LoL But i suppose i can see the logic not including the limited play-ability in the PE version. Ever since the days of TP/gunship i have been looking forward to having the ability to man AFV's and Gunships DCS combined arms has this ability but the ground warfare element needs a lot of work its fun but not a simulation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TSe419E Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Cut it out. I'm getting jealous. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotareneg Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 1 hour ago, TSe419E said: Cut it out. I'm getting jealous. It's easy to enable it in SB, you just need the right software. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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