aurens Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Does anybody have links to FM/TM's relating to the M1 Abrams, preferably the M1A2 SEP? I found FM 3-20.12 Tank Gunnery on Scribd but couldn't download it, if anyone has that please link it too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 (edited) Yep, but unfortunately I can't release them. US TRADOC maybe more liberal with their classification system. Edited February 6, 2017 by Gibsonm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSe419E Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 I doubt you will find a source for FMs and TMs for the 'A2 SEP since it is still in service. Is there anything information in particular you were looking for? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aurens Posted February 6, 2017 Author Share Posted February 6, 2017 1 minute ago, TSe419E said: I doubt you will find a source for FMs and TMs for the 'A2 SEP since it is still in service. Is there anything information in particular you were looking for? Nothing in particular. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assassin 7 Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 33 minutes ago, Nate Lawrence said: Does anybody have links to FM/TM's relating to the M1 Abrams, preferably the M1A2 SEP? I found FM 3-20.12 Tank Gunnery on Scribd but couldn't download it, if anyone has that please link it too. No, your best bet would be to use the SB Wiki. http://www.steelbeasts.com/sbwiki/index.php?title=M1A2_(SEP) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aurens Posted February 6, 2017 Author Share Posted February 6, 2017 12 minutes ago, Assassin 7 said: No, your best bet would be to use the SB Wiki. http://www.steelbeasts.com/sbwiki/index.php?title=M1A2_(SEP) Way ahead of you on that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assassin 7 Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Ok, good luck with getting the manuals then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maj.Hans Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 6 hours ago, Gibsonm said: Yep, but unfortunately I can't release them. US TRADOC maybe more liberal with their classification system. Sometimes the things that governments keep classified just make me laugh. They'll execute you for revealing secrets about it, meanwhile, we've got one on display in a museum and already know everything about it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirzayev Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 TRADOC is also restrictive when it comes to TMs and FMs on the M1A2. Unless you decide to enlist in the Army, I doubt you will be able to access them for the foreseeable future. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 2 hours ago, Maj.Hans said: Sometimes the things that governments keep classified just make me laugh. They'll execute you for revealing secrets about it, meanwhile, we've got one on display in a museum and already know everything about it. We'll of course you are entitled to your opinion, but I have to work within the rules, not matter how silly you might regard them to be. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maj.Hans Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 22 hours ago, Gibsonm said: We'll of course you are entitled to your opinion, but I have to work within the rules, not matter how silly you might regard them to be. Oh I never suggested that you should do anything but work within the rules. Just saying that governments in general tend to be kinda stupid sometimes. For example, Hungary considers the SA-6 "Gainful" (2K21 "Kub") SAM system to be a super-dooper highly classified national secret... Meanwhile, everyone who could possible go to war with Hungary either already has their own SA-6's that they operate or otherwise got access to the system to learn everything about it...But it's still a secret!!! Shh!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 On 2/8/2017 at 5:57 AM, Maj.Hans said: Oh I never suggested that you should do anything but work within the rules. Just saying that governments in general tend to be kinda stupid sometimes. For example, Hungary considers the SA-6 "Gainful" (2K21 "Kub") SAM system to be a super-dooper highly classified national secret... Meanwhile, everyone who could possible go to war with Hungary either already has their own SA-6's that they operate or otherwise got access to the system to learn everything about it...But it's still a secret!!! Shh!! Well, they have probably upgraded them since the USSR dissolved. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSe419E Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Saw this over at Tanknet: https://www.amazon.com/Abrams-Battle-Owners-Workshop-Manual/dp/1785210998/ref=sr_1_46?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1487261338&sr=1-46&keywords=tanks Maybe it will satisfy the desire for an Abrams manual. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 On 17/02/2017 at 3:37 AM, TSe419E said: Saw this over at Tanknet: https://www.amazon.com/Abrams-Battle-Owners-Workshop-Manual/dp/1785210998/ref=sr_1_46?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1487261338&sr=1-46&keywords=tanks Maybe it will satisfy the desire for an Abrams manual. Soooo. Why does it have a Challenger 2 as the cover photo? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSe419E Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 It's in pre-release so maybe the publishers haven't decided what picture should be on the front cover and they needed something something they could show to a potential purchaser? Maybe the person picking the picture doesn't have a clue? Maybe it's fake? In other words, I haven't got a clue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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