dpabrams Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) I feel like I am becoming that pain in the ass guy but 4.023 was running great until the sim no longer was taking input from my joystick. I checked the USB connections and restarted. The CH stick shows in the device and printers menu, I can calibrate it in the CH software and I refreshed and made sure I have joystick checked in the controls menu of SB. Any ideas? Pete Edited January 19, 2018 by dpabrams 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotareneg Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Reinstalling DirectX 9 has helped some people when their joysticks stopped working in SB: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=8109 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpabrams Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 38 minutes ago, Rotareneg said: Reinstalling DirectX 9 has helped some people when their joysticks stopped working in SB: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=8109 Hmmmmmmmmm, I just go a MS 365 update today. The MS site sure doesn't make it easy to find an update. I have Direct X 11. I am at a loss. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpabrams Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 The sim reads my other input device the Cedeq Enterpad. I checked my windows updates, sound and video drivers and all are up to date. Trouble with DirectX 11 I am am told is that it is part of Windows 7 Pro- 64-bit. All I can think to do now is reinstall SB Pro PE 4.023? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpabrams Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 OK, I did a reinstall but no go. Still no in game joystick........................ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted January 17, 2018 Members Share Posted January 17, 2018 In the properties of your CH stick, go to "advanced properties" and make it the "preferred device". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpabrams Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Ssnake said: In the properties of your CH stick, go to "advanced properties" and make it the "preferred device". In device manager and devices and printers, the menu's I have for the CH Combatstick are limited and do not have an "advanced properties menu". I have tabs for General/ Driver/ Details and none of these tabs show a "advanced properties menu". I have Windows 7 Professional 64-bit. I have never had this problem and it came on yesterday. My PC sees the stick, I can calibrate it but the sim does not. The sim does see my Enterpad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted January 17, 2018 Members Share Posted January 17, 2018 Well, I'm sure that if you unplug the Enterpad, the CH stick will be recognized by Steel Beasts. What I'm nor sure about is whether that will stay this way when you plug it in again. MS has changed the way how this was handled over time. They started with assigning IDs to each individual game controller on the USB, and I think that's still what's going on under the hood. At some point you could only set ID1, then that changed to the "preferred device". Still, under Windows 7 there still is the option to vierw and edit the properties of a game controller, with an "Advanced" button or tab that opens the dialog to make it the preferred device. I have Win 7 in a virtual machine here, but I have no joysticks connected, so I have to work from memory here. Windows 10, needless to say, does things differently again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkAngel Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Is this a Hotas setup with multiple USB inputs?. If so make sure you are not running them in combined mode. I had similar problems with the warthog as doing so put the device into "DirectX" mode which SB doesn't like. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpabrams Posted January 18, 2018 Author Share Posted January 18, 2018 Thanks for the input guys. When I return home I cant wait to fix this. I just cannot fathom SB without my joystick. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpabrams Posted January 19, 2018 Author Share Posted January 19, 2018 On 1/17/2018 at 9:21 AM, Ssnake said: Well, I'm sure that if you unplug the Enterpad, the CH stick will be recognized by Steel Beasts. What I'm nor sure about is whether that will stay this way when you plug it in again. MS has changed the way how this was handled over time. They started with assigning IDs to each individual game controller on the USB, and I think that's still what's going on under the hood. At some point you could only set ID1, then that changed to the "preferred device". Still, under Windows 7 there still is the option to vierw and edit the properties of a game controller, with an "Advanced" button or tab that opens the dialog to make it the preferred device. I have Win 7 in a virtual machine here, but I have no joysticks connected, so I have to work from memory here. Windows 10, needless to say, does things differently again. OK, I have removed the Enterpad and tried the Combatstick alone in several USB ports and still have no stick in the sim. I do now see the "Advanced" button, however the Combatstick is not listed as a device or any device for that matter that I may chose. I don't get it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpabrams Posted January 19, 2018 Author Share Posted January 19, 2018 On 1/17/2018 at 12:35 PM, DarkAngel said: Is this a Hotas setup with multiple USB inputs?. If so make sure you are not running them in combined mode. I had similar problems with the warthog as doing so put the device into "DirectX" mode which SB doesn't like. I was running a Combatstick and a Enterpad for well over a year with versions 4.0 and up and now all of a sudden I cannot run the Combatstick????? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkAngel Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 You have tried unplugging it and plugging it back in?. Looks like thereis no driver running for the joystick. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSe419E Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 It might be a recent windows upgrade that did you in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpabrams Posted January 19, 2018 Author Share Posted January 19, 2018 13 minutes ago, DarkAngel said: You have tried unplugging it and plugging it back in?. Looks like thereis no driver running for the joystick. Good on that Dark. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotareneg Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 If the joystick doesn't show up in Windows, there's something wrong. Assuming you have the CH Control Center installed, make sure the joystick isn't disabled there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpabrams Posted January 19, 2018 Author Share Posted January 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Rotareneg said: If the joystick doesn't show up in Windows, there's something wrong. Assuming you have the CH Control Center installed, make sure the joystick isn't disabled there. The joystick shows up in windows and I am able to calibrate in the CH Control Center, the joystick does NOT show up in the sim. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotareneg Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 The screenshot you posted a few posts back shows that it is not listed in the Game Controllers window, that means that Windows isn't seeing the joystick as an input device. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpabrams Posted January 19, 2018 Author Share Posted January 19, 2018 16 minutes ago, Rotareneg said: The screenshot you posted a few posts back shows that it is not listed in the Game Controllers window, that means that Windows isn't seeing the joystick as an input device. Is it there now? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpabrams Posted January 19, 2018 Author Share Posted January 19, 2018 Anyhow, I am unable to do a restore to before the "critical Update" on 1-16-2018 which I believe started this whole mess. I get the usual it's your AV, so I disabled the AV and I am still unable to do a system restore prior to 1-16-2018. Suck to be me. Is there anyone else having this issue? I am dead in the water. No stick no sim. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotareneg Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 If the joystick isn't showing up here, it isn't going to work in any program: I suggest you start by unplugging the joystick and then uninstalling the CH drivers. After doing that and rebooting, plug the joystick back in and see if it shows up in the game controller window. If it does, you can go ahead and install the CH drivers and check that window again to make sure Windows can see the joystick. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSe419E Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 (edited) I had the same issue with my Saitek X-55 (with a previous update) and I have seen elsewhere that this most recent update has caused other devices to fail. Edited January 19, 2018 by TSe419E 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpabrams Posted January 19, 2018 Author Share Posted January 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Rotareneg said: I suggest you start by unplugging the joystick and then uninstalling the CH drivers. After doing that and rebooting, plug the joystick back in and see if it shows up in the game controller window. If it does, you can go ahead and install the CH drivers and check that window again to make sure Windows can see the joystick. OK, that worked. Un-calibrated and needs to be programmed but it's there at least. THANKS Rotar!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpabrams Posted January 19, 2018 Author Share Posted January 19, 2018 Programmed stick, added Enterpad back in and so far so good. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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