Damian90 Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 So what is a true "Leoclerc" made by KNDS... well it's most likely... a Leclerc turret placed on Leopard 2 chassis... yeah. Notice that the gun is Leclerc CN120-26/L52 120mm smoothbore gun, turret profile looks similiar but, the chassis is different, lower front plate looks similiar to Leopard 2 and have 7 road wheels instead of 6. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damian90 Posted June 10, 2018 Author Share Posted June 10, 2018 Two more photos. I am more and more inclining on the conclusion that this is simply a Leopard 2A7V chassis mated with Leclerc S3/SXXI turret. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 Wish they would fit a leclerc turret with a CR-2 hull. And German L/55 gun.or even the 140mm. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12Alfa Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 I am more and more inclining on the conclusion AFTER the tarp is off, call me crazy! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grenny Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 I hope we get to see it from the inside too...and they don't take away my camera :-P 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12Alfa Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/landwarfareintl/eurosatory-2018-franco-german-industry-unveils-new/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galileo Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 A little video here: https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/video/2018/06/11/eurosatory-2018-check-out-this-new-main-battle-tank-from-knds/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavictoireestlavie Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Now they should mate a Leopard 2A7 turret on a Leclerc Serie XXI hull !!!!! Do it ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damian90 Posted June 11, 2018 Author Share Posted June 11, 2018 4 hours ago, lavictoireestlavie said: Now they should mate a Leopard 2A7 turret on a Leclerc Serie XXI hull !!!!! Do it ! EMBT is ugly design I must say, simply turret and hull do not fit well. I trully do not understand why wasting your own money for such thing that probably nobody will purchase. Unless, unless KNDS have real problems with the next gen MBT project, and not everything is so great about it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 11 minutes ago, Damian90 said: EMBT is ugly design I must say, simply turret and hull do not fit well. I trully do not understand why wasting your own money for such thing that probably nobody will purchase. Unless, unless KNDS have real problems with the next gen MBT project, and not everything is so great about it. I Would speculate. Its about Germany's strict export policy for military products. Back in the early 1990 there was a prototype tank built mating a CR-1 hull with a leo-2 hull. No buyers were found. i think it was targeted at the middle eastern market. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted June 12, 2018 Members Share Posted June 12, 2018 4 hours ago, Damian90 said: I trully do not understand why wasting your own money for such thing that probably nobody will purchase. Here's my take, They needed "something" to show to generate buzz in the press, so they built "something" - and it generates buzz in the press, mission accomplished. They need to demonstrate the merger, so the "something" to demonstrate merges things (even if they don't belong together), mission accomplished. Krauss-Maffei has always been mostly an automotive company, speaking from a corporate culture perspective. Turrets were designed and manufactured by Wegmann. And while the "merger" of K-M and W was actually more of an acquisition of K-M by W, Wegmann conceded that K-M would keep the HQ and be listed first, so the old K-M network does what K-M guys do - ditch the turret and keep the chassis. Spot on WRT the export control issues. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 (edited) Another video showing some good footage of the EMBT. I wonder would they sell me one on a installment plan kidding aside. I know in the scheme of things looks don't mean shit its capability's that mater But its a mean looking Tank. Edited June 21, 2018 by Marko 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted June 21, 2018 Members Share Posted June 21, 2018 12 hours ago, Marko said: But its a mean looking Tank. ...until an ATGM slams into the hull ammo stowage... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damian90 Posted June 21, 2018 Author Share Posted June 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Ssnake said: ...until an ATGM slams into the hull ammo stowage... I would be more worried about poorly armored turret of the Leclerc with it's huge weak zones in frontal projection. Leopard 2A7 hull, despite obvious weakness in form of ammo storage, have relatively good frontal protection. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 9 hours ago, Ssnake said: ...until an ATGM slams into the hull ammo stowage... True. But there is not a tank on the market that does not have a weakness somewhere on its platform. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Eurgh! That is one Fugly tank. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damian90 Posted September 12, 2018 Author Share Posted September 12, 2018 On 21.06.2018 at 7:41 PM, Marko said: True. But there is not a tank on the market that does not have a weakness somewhere on its platform. It's a question how big that weakness is. I was inside several MBT's. Currently, the only one I would go in to battle? M1 series, eventually Merkava Mk4. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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