RENEGADE-623 Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 on a Bradley, the drivers hatch and the back door are locked with a padlock. the commanders and gunners hatches cannot be opened from the outside. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildbillkelsoe Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 5 hours ago, RENEGADE-623 said: on a Bradley, the drivers hatch and the back door are locked with a padlock. the commanders and gunners hatches cannot be opened from the outside. that must be a fortress then 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper1970 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 (edited) Still came across this thread, since I also wanted to build a gunner control handle. As I looked at the photos of them, I remembered the old CH Products Virtual Pilot Pro. Ok it is far away from an exact replica, but with some modding (additional buttons, rework some of the shapes) and a conversion to USB it could be a nice gunner handle. I also own a 3D Printer (Creality Ender 3 Pro - cheap but really good), so some new Parts could be also made. I think this is a nice part to start with. I will search for a used one at ebay. There is no need that the yoke is working, only the body and the mechanics must be intact, the rest will be replaced with new electronics. I also did this with all of my HOTAS replicas for my homepit. Edited June 14, 2019 by Viper1970 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galileo Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 There is some control handles on ebay. You just have to figure the connections. https://www.ebay.com/itm/TANK-LEOPARD-FIRING-GUN-COTROLLER-GUNNERS-STICK-HANDLE-CONTROL-HYDRAULIC-REXROTH-/172976831998 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Galileo said: There is some control handles on ebay. You just have to figure the connections. https://www.ebay.com/itm/TANK-LEOPARD-FIRING-GUN-COTROLLER-GUNNERS-STICK-HANDLE-CONTROL-HYDRAULIC-REXROTH-/172976831998 Note the word "Hydraulic" in the description! You need to convert a device based on a hydraulic mechanism into one that uses electrical impulses. Edited June 15, 2019 by Gibsonm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galileo Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Hall effect potentiometer and arduino card and a little coding. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawes Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Galileo said: There is some control handles on ebay. You just have to figure the connections. https://www.ebay.com/itm/TANK-LEOPARD-FIRING-GUN-COTROLLER-GUNNERS-STICK-HANDLE-CONTROL-HYDRAULIC-REXROTH-/172976831998 Yes, these are hydraulic controls and are actually from a Marder, not a Leopard. We have a set in our 'Control Handle Museum' 😊 The same ebay seller has a set of control handles from a Leopard 1A5 https://www.ebay.com/itm/TANK-LEOPARD-COTROLLER-STICK-HANDLE-CONTROL-HYDRAULIC-BUNDESWEHR-BW-GERMAN-ARMY/173552667258?_trkparms=aid%3D333200%26algo%3DCOMP.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20190129125700%26meid%3D38f8128c774c45f390fcbf5266e578a8%26pid%3D100752%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D172976831998%26itm%3D173552667258&_trksid=p2047675.c100752.m1982 These are much easier to convert to a USB device for Steel Beasts as they use standard potentiometers and switches. We've converted a few of these ourselves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grenny Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 13 hours ago, hawes said: Yes, these are hydraulic controls and are actually from a Marder, not a Leopard. We have a set in our 'Control Handle Museum' 😊 The same ebay seller has a set of control handles from a Leopard 1A5 https://www.ebay.com/itm/TANK-LEOPARD-COTROLLER-STICK-HANDLE-CONTROL-HYDRAULIC-BUNDESWEHR-BW-GERMAN-ARMY/173552667258?_trkparms=aid%3D333200%26algo%3DCOMP.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20190129125700%26meid%3D38f8128c774c45f390fcbf5266e578a8%26pid%3D100752%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D172976831998%26itm%3D173552667258&_trksid=p2047675.c100752.m1982 These are much easier to convert to a USB device for Steel Beasts as they use standard potentiometers and switches. We've converted a few of these ourselves. Spot on! When someone tries to sell you a Marder gunners set as a Leopadr1's...it gets hard to trust them 😉 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper1970 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 (edited) I wanted to keep things cost-efficient, that's the reason I thought about converting an old flight yoke to a gunner control. I also could do that thing from scratch, but the dimensions of the handle are to big for my 3D printer to make it relatively solid. I have to split it in more seperate parts, which makes the thing more complex and harder to built. The mechanics are also much more durable, if you use a factory built control. So I thought about getting an old yoke which has a likewise shape and only change some things or add some printed parts and buttons to it, to make a "universal" gunner control, no exact replica. I think even a not exact replica of the control would improve the immersion to sit in a real tank much more. Edited June 16, 2019 by Viper1970 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japetus Posted November 24, 2020 Author Share Posted November 24, 2020 Posting unfortunately a bit late, but there has been a recent kickstarter campaign for the remake of a usb star wars yoke, too bad it's over now.. Was selling at ~160usd https://bit.ly/3fxziv4 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumituisku Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 (edited) I have been thinking of control handles a lot last few years as well. Well... Until the point when I actually accuired some from AFV sim. Love the quality on those. But back to original topic. I used to play Steelbeast a lot with my old and rugged logitech 3d extreme pro joystick and using SB controls set for control handle. As it makes in my opinion big difference of how you use some vehicles (Leopards & cv). Difference i did to be able to do this I changed palmswich to be activated by trigger instead.. and firing to be from usual Lase button on side. It was bit awkward at times but worked mostly... (To a point when it didn't) because some vehicles have very specific control handles and trying some functions caused bizarre unexpected effects at the time. This is because of existing keybinds for control handles. Anyways... I think that key difference in normal gaming joystick and control handle is palmswich. So I think... If you have a 3D printer. Why not to just build a sort of lever to add to side of existing old.. (sacrifiable) joystick and somehow relocate one of buttons to be connected to that? Wouldn't that be most easy? Edited November 25, 2020 by Lumituisku 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxzic Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 my new toy from santank claus 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted December 17, 2021 Members Share Posted December 17, 2021 Oh boy... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormrider_sp Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 (edited) 16 hours ago, Toxzic said: my new toy from santank claus What is it and, more importantly, how much for it? Edited December 18, 2021 by stormrider_sp 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SippyCup Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 I was wondering this too, it doesn't appear to be from the only manufacturer I know. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxzic Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 my son got it for 500 bucks for all 3 items ( the control handle the left panel and the central control panel plate). from the tag when i received the package says m2a2. but maybe m3. my son says it came from a decomissioned M2 simulator. i managed to make the handle work using bodnar board. next work will be to wire the left panel. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper1970 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Maybe I will do gunner controls for tank-sims also at a later time 😄. The grips aren't so complex to model. I have made a lot of HOTAS/HOCAS as 3D-models the last year for use with DCS. Buying them was not possible for me, and many grips aren't even available, so I made them on my own. I already made the cyclic and the collective of the AH-64D Apache and many other helicopters and aircraft. After the print there is for sure also a lot of work to do like spray-filler and paint them, but it's possible. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted April 20, 2022 Members Share Posted April 20, 2022 AFVSim, if I remember this correctly, offers 3D print files for control handle grips if you order the needed circuit boards from them. This can be a decent alternative to reduce costs for private enthusiasts. https://www.afvsim.com/products/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper1970 Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 Thank's! This is very interesting, but first I have to finish my universal cockpit project first. Although I have already built a second simulation place, my "command unit", which is meant to play tank and naval sims only, there is still so much work to do at the pit. But if needed, there is a place for gunner controls also, somewhere in the future 😄. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanTDBV Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 If anyone want's it, here is the best of my first tries at Photo scanning a Danish Leopard 1A5DK Gunner's grip. I made a mistake and used a white background for the pictures, thus making it more difficult for Metashape to do it's magic. It is rough, but can still be used as a base for grip stl files. One is really what is needed as it is mirrored on the other side. Since it will be a long while before I can rephoto the grip, I have decided to upload the blend file to Sketchfab. It can be downloaded here: https://skfb.ly/o9FNP Happy Simming 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 Darklabor made Leclerc gunner/TC handles with 3D print. Very effective 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanTDBV Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 (edited) I have created an album on Flickr with pictures showing more details than the photoscan. Edited April 23, 2022 by DanTDBV 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper1970 Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 On 4/23/2022 at 10:11 AM, Froggy said: Darklabor made Leclerc gunner/TC handles with 3D print. Very effective Wow, that's looking amazing! 😍 I think I will start with it as soon as my whole HOTAS parts are done. I'm a controller-junkie since I started to built my own. 😅 It's really amazing what is possible with 3D printers. It opens up whole new possibilities that you could only dream of in the past. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxzic Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 On 7/28/2018 at 9:51 AM, japetus said: Back at the '80s, there used to be an arcade game/cabin called Star Wars, which featured a unique control, known as the Star Wars yoke, which resembles pretty much a gunners control. Well, sort of, a few keys are missing.. Unfortunately, the particular controller has not become popular with other games, so original items like this are quite rare (and expensive) and third party copies not available. Several individuals have tried since then to replicate such a controller, many with quite a success, in order to make a usb controller to be used in custom gaming computers. There's even a 3d sketch for it available, which with some edit for more buttons, palm switch etc., could be used to serve the needs of the gunner position in SB.. Check out the sketches here: http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=133656.0 i saw similar to this in amazon for $200. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12Alfa Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 18 hours ago, Toxzic said: i saw similar to this in amazon for $200. They work great, I have a set, one can still buy them around $200.00 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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