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Question about Leopard 2A5s, Emergency and Manual modes

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Did you switch the fire control system to manual mode first?

(The rotary selector with a big arrow on it, behind the gunner's right shoulder)

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I believe I did. I made a short video of what I noticed when I tried the tutorial vs an undamaged tank.

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Thanks for that. So it does work ... just not in the tutorial that's supposed to show it. :o

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On 10/13/2020 at 2:41 AM, Croaker said:

Trying to learn the Leopard 2A5 using the tutorials today, I also couldn't move the turret in manual mode using mouse or arrow keys in the manual fire tutorial. With an undamaged 2A5, I could move the sight in manual mode using the mouse.

... as the 2A5 has an electrical emergy drive for the turret, this is to be expected

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19 minutes ago, Grenny said:

... as the 2A5 has an electrical emergy drive for the turret, this is to be expected

Yes, but the damage type used in the manual fire tutorial should allow for the item it is attempting to showcase to perform as expected. I believe that was the issue, and not how it was simulated.

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2 hours ago, Croaker said:

Yes, but the damage type used in the manual fire tutorial should allow for the item it is attempting to showcase to perform as expected. I believe that was the issue, and not how it was simulated.

Why? It works as it would IRL...so where do you see the problem?

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The video shows it all.

 

It works as intended in pretty much any scenario - just not in the tutorial that's supposed to demonstrate how it works.

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7 hours ago, Grenny said:

... as the 2A5 has an electrical emergy drive for the turret, this is to be expected

 

3 hours ago, Ssnake said:

The video shows it all.

 

It works as intended in pretty much any scenario - just not in the tutorial that's supposed to demonstrate how it works.

 

Eeeer...   yes and no?  

 

Do you still remember this reply from Volcano?  

 

 

On 9/11/2020 at 10:43 PM, Volcano said:

Sorry for any confusion in this thread, but...

 

"Turret drive" damage causes a loss of powered traverse, not loss of all turret movement.  With turret drive damage, you still should be able to traverse in manual mode. If that is not the case, then this is what would be a bug.

 

"Turret" damage is what should cause a vehicle to lose all traverse capability, both manual and powered. If that is not the case, then that would be a bug.

 

(Yes, likely confusion might be from the possibility that "Turret drive" could have been named "Hydraulics" long ago).

 

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To be clear there is a bug here with the Leo 2A5 (the user should be able to traverse manually like the AI can with Turret Drive damage). This is under investigation.

 

 

 

So...  As I understand....   if I understand it correctly.  At some point there was made simplification where  "Turret drive"  means that you are supposed to enter to manual mode and move turret slowly (aka to use back-up power), am I not correct?     And "Turret"  means that motor / gear is broken.   

 

Atleast that is how it works on all other vehicles (to my knowledge) in Steelbeast.  >.<

 

So if that is so...  In steelbeast   Leopard 2A5  should be able to traverse turret when player gets damage announcement "turret drive"  as that means main control and is indication to go to use manual  slow mode instead. 

 

Currently that isn't so, because of the confusion of how different people interpret what "Turret drive"  damage means.       To be clear...  as I understand it -  damage to turret drive as you guys seem to understand it exist  (Where you lose all power and control of turret rotation)  but it is  named under   "Turret"    instead. 

 

Edited by Lumituisku

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Yes... but irrespective of all that, at the end of the day we have a tutorial that is broken and confuses the hell out of people.

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2 hours ago, Ssnake said:

Yes... but irrespective of all that, at the end of the day we have a tutorial that is broken and confuses the hell out of people.

And was originally cause of all this to begin with. As text says one thing and Sim works other way. 

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