stalintc Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 Right then, I managed to buy the Russian version of Black Shark, by following some instructions from some clever people on the DCS forums! And boy and am I a happy bunny, this is one SLICK helicopter sim...... Here are some screeshots from my latest escapade 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tacbat Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 What are we talking about in terms of $$? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stalintc Posted November 9, 2008 Author Share Posted November 9, 2008 To buy the Russian version it cost me just over £10 Convert that to dollars and thats it! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacbat Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 That's it?! I wish my Russian was better, cause that's $25 well spent. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha6 Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 hell yea 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma6584 Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Yeah, all us Lockon simmers have been waiting for this baby for quite a while. I'll wait for the western release though but damn I'm itching to fly some heli-ops. Give us more screenies and impressions please!You have seen the videos put out by Matt Wagner have you not? The one where he shows the capabilities of the data link is just unbelievable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 I'll pass. It uses Starforce for copy protection. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha6 Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 What now? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 How is it to play without rudder pedals?I'm assuming you dont have rudder pedals.Usually chopper sims can be a little bit hard to fly if you dont have them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vati Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Well it is hard to fly w/o rudders in any flight sim worth its name.So yes, if you do not have twist stick or something similar, you will need to use keyboard. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stalintc Posted November 12, 2008 Author Share Posted November 12, 2008 How is it to play without rudder pedals?I'm assuming you dont have rudder pedals. Usually chopper sims can be a little bit hard to fly if you dont have them. I have bought myself some Saitek Pro Flight pedals not a problem! No more twist stick for me! haha 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floydii Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Can't wait until they release the apache module. I'm told it will work with Pilot and CPG in the same helo for multiplayer.Bring on the red hordes! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha6 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Lol in a Russian sim 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacbat Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Stalin, what are your FPS like with your rig? Is it fairly intuitive to learn, or is it a steep learning curve? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dejawolf Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 from what i've seen of the simhq videos, its more of a learning wall, than a learning curve.which is what a sim is supposed to be, since the learning is half the fun! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stalintc Posted November 13, 2008 Author Share Posted November 13, 2008 Stalin, what are your FPS like with your rig? Is it fairly intuitive to learn, or is it a steep learning curve?It runs like a dream! I thought I would have problems, but it runs smooth as silk even in heavy fighting and the shkval tv display running too, ive got no complaints!It is a very steep learning curve and like Deja just stated its more like a wall. There is LOTS to learn, flying the helicopter is half the battle.... ensuring that all the various different systems are working together for the desired result also requires alot of learning. This is the sort of study sim that I have dreamed of!!!It is impressive that even the flow of oil and hydraulics is fully modelled, leaks can be sprung and perform realistically, likewise you can even make your engine catch fire by accident if you follow the wrong sequence when starting the helicopter up!But I have to say it is a real marvel to have a fully 3D clickable cockpit, so I can turn my head and look at the switch and flick it rather than having to mash some odd key combo into my keyboard.I dont think ive ever been as enthralled with a flight simulator this much since Falcon 4.0So overall if your not someone who can sit down, read the manual and practice lots and still enjoy yourself, it will not be worth your while, it is not something you can just pick up and play... UNLESS of course you load it up in GAME MODE, which allows you to just fly around with minimum effort and just shoot s**t up! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacbat Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Thanks for the info Stalin,Are there any tutorials that help you get started? Are you running with a mulit-monitor setup?Also, is there an expected release date for the western version? I heard some estimates as being in 3 months, although a demo version was expected before Xmas. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dejawolf Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 there's a big fat manual that you can use for reference. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacbat Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Here's hoping osmosis works... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wahrborg Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Is there any MP? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stalintc Posted November 14, 2008 Author Share Posted November 14, 2008 Yes 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGTharos Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 I would expect early february but don't quote me on that.Thanks for the info Stalin,Are there any tutorials that help you get started? Are you running with a mulit-monitor setup?Also, is there an expected release date for the western version? I heard some estimates as being in 3 months, although a demo version was expected before Xmas. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vati Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 It runs like a dream! I thought I would have problems, but it runs smooth as silk even in heavy fighting and the shkval tv display running too, ive got no complaints!What kind of computer do you have? In my experience (Q6600) it performs more or less the same as FC (which is far from satisfying for my taste out of the box. I needed to tweak some settings to achieve stable 25+ fps).It is a very steep learning curve and like Deja just stated its more like a wall. There is LOTS to learn, flying the helicopter is half the battle.... ensuring that all the various different systems are working together for the desired result also requires alot of learning. This is the sort of study sim that I have dreamed of!!!To be frank, I thought it would be more complicated due to all the hype. For me it was very low learning curve. The hardest part was turning on the beast, and that's all when it comes to 'the wall'. If you make yourself a check list (as you would have in RL) it's very simple after you figure out the cockpit layout.But I guess I have it easier as I understand russian and there was no real language barrier for reading the manual.However not all is wonderful in the land of BS. The biggest let down is the mission editor and AI which is basically the same as in previous ED's products.Editor is where SBP and ArmA/OFP really shine. The spawn unit/msg trigger is nice addition to BS, but it does not create the dynamics which one would need for such type of combat helicopter simulator. As I understand, they are working on this for future addons.Next one is that ABRIS cannot be preplanned in editor beyond flight route. Very, very stupid implementation. However I already found the work around and I am configuring it by hand via script files, which is much faster than going into the cockpit and using ABRIS interface.Last but not least, you cannot collide with trees (yep..)Overall it is very nice refreshment to the scene and MP is very fun as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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