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Yes, that autotracking is just awesome.

(Wonder if it works IRL as good as in game ;-)...  Just experience, some companies promise a lot with these functions, and when you test it on a combat-range, the rate of success is WAY below 100%)

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34 minutes ago, Apocalypse 31 said:

30mm like a sniper rifle...

 

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PS.: I'd like to try using the DF30 as a kind of recon vehicle in some scenarios/games.

The rather small and hight up TC optics should make it useable for that...

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IRL these target trackers work by image processing, typically seeking "moving contrasts". Since we can't run a real-time simulation AND do image processing (especially in the absence of the same DLPs, let along the software/algorithms used in the real vehicles) the quality of our target tracking is ... "idealized".

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Yeah. I was about to make a post about it myself.

By far the most interesting new vehicle in 4.157. Full of intedresting options and great capabilities.

I have used it in a couple of SP scenarios along the Pizarro and Centauro is my favourite vehicle in SB.

Hopefully it will get incorporated to the Sunday multiplayer exercises someday. Save a slot for me!!

 

I am still lacking some information about the system caopabilities.

It reminds me the new project for the Spanish Army, the Dragon 8x8 with the new tower „Tizona“ still in development but similar scope.

 

I really like the DF30 !!!!!!

Thanks Esimgames!!!!

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I've been trying this vehicle as well lately. I'd love to have that Elbit RWS available in more vehicles, like the Pandur or the Boxer. This is the RWS used in the brazilian army Iveco Guarani VBTP-MR.

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The Elbit ERCWS-M has been available on the "Pandur I (RWS)" (sic!) since version 4.0. And on the LMV.

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Same here, love this thing. I do wonder if there is only the autotracker or also another way to calculate lead? The way de df90 works doesn't seem to work in the df30.

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1 minute ago, munckmb said:

Same here, love this thing. I do wonder if there is only the autotracker or also another way to calculate lead? The way de df90 works doesn't seem to work in the df30.

No, Autotracker is the only lead function for the DF30.

 

 

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On the Steel Beast Wiki page for the DF30 there is no reference for Autotracker and  the propossed lead method is the same as of the DF 90

SB Wiki page. Lead in the Pirahna DF 30

 

How do you activate this autotracker you mentioned?

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2 hours ago, munckmb said:

The way de df90 works doesn't seem to work in the df30.

Speaking of which, how does the lead work in the DF 90? I read the wiki page but it's not working for me.

 

To calculate lead, put the reticle on target and lase. Then track the moving target and press the lase button again and hold it for five seconds, then release. Then when you fire, you will have lead applied to the shot.

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On 8/7/2019 at 5:18 AM, Furia said:

On the Steel Beast Wiki page for the DF30 there is no reference for Autotracker and  the propossed lead method is the same as of the DF 90

SB Wiki page. Lead in the Pirahna DF 30

 

How do you activate this autotracker you mentioned?

As the DF30 page says at the top in bold letters, its a work in progress. The DF30 page was copeid from the DF90, and then is being changed. Commander position is complete though, but gunner is not.  If I can get some minutes of spare time between all the other things going on, then the page will be finished. Just saying. ;)

 

But for the most part, press CTRL+C, and look at the DF30 controls list -- O key is default for auto tracker. Once its tracking you will also have lead. Yeah, it is pretty awesome.

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3 hours ago, Volcano said:

As the DF30 page says at the top in bold letters, its a work in progress. The DF30 page was copeid from the DF90, and then is being changed. Commander position is .  If I can get some minutes of spare time between all the other things going on, then the page will be finished. Just saying. ;)

 

But for the most part, press CTRL+C, and look at the DF30 controls list -- O key is default for auto tracker. Once its tracking you will also have lead. Yeah, it is pretty awesome.

It works great! Thanks.

I was aware that the page is still work on progress, nevertheless highly welcome and useful. 👍

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Lead for the DF90 is: lase, release, hold lase and track for a count of 3 or 4, release lase and fire.

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So much lasing and re lasing and waiting 5 seconds to fire is not much healthy in todays battlefield with the proliferation of laser detectors in combat vehicles. That is something that will surely have impact in the future

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I don't think the DF90 is made for a high intensity battlefield with significant anti-armor threat (eventual missiles aside). Its armor protection - for a wheeled vehicle - is reasonable but not extraordinary which implies that you can't bring yourself into vulnerable positions for more than the briefest moments. Within that context the DF90 does not need to be optimized for duel situations.

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29 minutes ago, Hedgehog said:

Think of it as a wheeled Sturm Geschutz (With a Turret)

So in other words, not like one at all? ;)

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10 minutes ago, Gibsonm said:

So in other words, not like one at all? ;)

🤣🤣🤣

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DF90 gunnery is definitely not easy and the auto-lead is inconsistent. 

 

There's also no indication that lead is being applied - at least not that I can see on the gunners interface. 

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While the DF 30 with its 30mm gun, and the onboard Spike ATGM team it is a serious and interesting vehicle. the DF 90 does not look much useful or interesting. An overkill for engaging light vehicles, but undergunned for engaging medium armoured vehicles. Bulky, slow, rate of fire........

I keep my dear Centauro fur such task, however the DF 30 it is  really interesting and able platform.

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Posted (edited)

DF-90 is

On 8/8/2019 at 1:41 PM, Ssnake said:

I don't think the DF90 is made for a high intensity battlefield with significant anti-armor threat (eventual missiles aside). Its armor protection - for a wheeled vehicle - is reasonable but not extraordinary which implies that you can't bring yourself into vulnerable positions for more than the briefest moments. Within that context the DF90 does not need to be optimized for duel situations.

Exactly, low intensity conflict / peace keeping... (wtf) primary objectives are: Technical, APC, IFV, bunker, ,...

Be aware that everything stronger than a .50 can go in...

Look like they can try to shoot some older tanks till the T-55 (non up-armored), but with a vehicle that high, I won't try...

 

About the ATT in the DF-30, I never saw it working that well like in the first vidéo, indeed it's "idealized" :)

 

Usually we send a Mix (1 DF-30 & 1 DF-90) in Sp of a Inf Coy

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