MisterCommander Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Where is the gunner's sight located in reference to the main gun on the T-72? Also, where is it located outside of the tank? It seems that it is higher than the main gun. I had a situation where I could easily see the enemy tank through the gunner's sight, but when I fired the TC immediately reported short when I know my range was correct. I think I was hitting the hill directly in front of me instead of shooting over it like the sight showed. There was a gap between the top of the hill and the bottom of the target, so it looked to me like was clear of the top of the hill. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 May well be. In RL reporting "crest clearance" prior to firing is a key task. Often using the secondary sight to check this and then switching to the primary for the actual engagement is a good practice. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted January 28, 2020 Members Share Posted January 28, 2020 The T-72 doesn't have a secondary sight. Yes, it's located on the turret roof, above the gunner's position, and thus also to the left and above the main gun (the black square opening as seen on the image on this page). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bond_Villian Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Also worth noting that the red dot is the lasing point, not the arrow on the reticle. Lasing with the target in the reticle instead of under the red dot may result in a short. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormrider_sp Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 8 hours ago, MisterCommander said: Where is the gunner's sight located in reference to the main gun on the T-72? Also, where is it located outside of the tank? It seems that it is higher than the main gun. I had a situation where I could easily see the enemy tank through the gunner's sight, but when I fired the TC immediately reported short when I know my range was correct. I think I was hitting the hill directly in front of me instead of shooting over it like the sight showed. There was a gap between the top of the hill and the bottom of the target, so it looked to me like was clear of the top of the hill. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Volcano Posted January 28, 2020 Moderators Share Posted January 28, 2020 Not sure if you found this yet, but if not, then it will certainly help... https://www.steelbeasts.com/sbwiki/index.php?title=T-72B1_(m.1984)#Gunner.27s_Position_F6 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterCommander Posted January 29, 2020 Author Share Posted January 29, 2020 Thanks, Stormrider. It took me a few minutes to put all of the pieces together, but I got it. That drawing was key. I can clearly see the issue now. My guess, as an American so the metric system is not native to me, is that the gunner's sight is about 20 to 25 cm higher than the horizontal line of the main gun. If the gun is pointed down at all, then the difference and hence the error is greater even, since the length of the barrel will multiply this difference way out at the tip. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterCommander Posted January 29, 2020 Author Share Posted January 29, 2020 9 hours ago, Volcano said: Not sure if you found this yet, but if not, then it will certainly help... https://www.steelbeasts.com/sbwiki/index.php?title=T-72B1_(m.1984)#Gunner.27s_Position_F6 Thanks, Volcano. I have seen that before. A whole lot of words on that page. I am sure the answer to my question is in there somewhere, but finding is a bit tedious for me. Thanks again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bond_Villian Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 On 1/28/2020 at 9:55 AM, MisterCommander said: I think I was hitting the hill directly in front of me instead of shooting over it like the sight showed. Firing a burst of coax will usually tell you if you have clearance 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12Alfa Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Crest clearing drill will do that also, all gunners/CC/Drivers are trained in this method as part of their gunnery course The 1CAD had a few trg sessions on this very drill a while ago, practice,practice,practice., ......ah those were the days............. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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