stormrider_sp Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Apocalypse 31 said: Don't tell him it's already in game C'mon, why spoil it. If the eyes don't see, the heart doesn't feel. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 5 hours ago, Ssnake said: Might not make it. Aw 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 I really got a chuckle when I saw this 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrapper_511 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 3 hours ago, Apocalypse 31 said: Don't tell him it's already in game Is it? Dang, I hate it when I do this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koen Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 17 hours ago, Hedgehog said: (Switchable Penalty Zones would go a looooong way though ) Oh yes 👍 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koen Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 18 hours ago, Ssnake said: Computer-controlled units will be affected just like human players. They will report a minefield if they discover the fence. Then someone will need to take a closer look. Until it has been investigated by engineers, everybody will treat it as a real minefield. Except, of course, for the party that owns the decoy. Their AI vehicles can easily drive through, in line formation at top speed, all guns blazing. Superbe ! 👍👍 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bond_Villian Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 8 hours ago, Badger said: I really got a chuckle when I saw this Lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted October 7, 2020 Members Share Posted October 7, 2020 I take it as a compliment that we can still surprise you. However, personally I see it as a rather stringent consequence of our development of the new terrain engine, which shifts the focus of our development more towards engineer related topics. And if you have to re-work some parts of the minefield code anyway, you can just as well tack on a project like this which will raise the paranoia level when dealing with mine obstacles, which can only be a good thing from a game design point of view. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocalypse 31 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 47 minutes ago, Ssnake said: more towards engineer related topics I'm looking forward to you guys fulfilling whatever "engineer-related topics" are to your military customers so we can move on. I can see the utility for the PRO customers, but I don't see it fitting within the scope of the Personal Edition. 1. Engineer dig assets are 'usually' organized at the Brigade-level. That echelon is not easily depicted in SB. 2. Obstacle emplacement & fighting positions (aka - the obstacle effort) takes HOURS to accomplish in real life (usually between 8-12 hours at the Brigade-level, in my experience). 3. I haven't timed it in game, because I'm not really interested in it - but I think it would also be time consuming to even dig enough positions for a tank company. 4. Most PE multiplayer games usually span about 2 hours, the longer ones only a few hours longer. Certainly not enough time to focus on the obstacle effort - unless you focus the entire MP session on digging ditches, which may be fun to some players (I can only think of one!) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grenny Posted October 7, 2020 Author Share Posted October 7, 2020 15 minutes ago, Apocalypse 31 said: ... (I can only think of one!) Who? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocalypse 31 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Grenny said: Who? Our dirty engineer @Kingtiger 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted October 7, 2020 Members Share Posted October 7, 2020 8 hours ago, Apocalypse 31 said: I'm looking forward to you guys fulfilling whatever "engineer-related topics" are to your military customers so we can move on. I can see the utility for the PRO customers, but I don't see it fitting within the scope of the Personal Edition. 1. Engineer dig assets are 'usually' organized at the Brigade-level. That echelon is not easily depicted in SB. 2. Obstacle emplacement & fighting positions (aka - the obstacle effort) takes HOURS to accomplish in real life (usually between 8-12 hours at the Brigade-level, in my experience). 3. I haven't timed it in game, because I'm not really interested in it - but I think it would also be time consuming to even dig enough positions for a tank company. 4. Most PE multiplayer games usually span about 2 hours, the longer ones only a few hours longer. Certainly not enough time to focus on the obstacle effort - unless you focus the entire MP session on digging ditches, which may be fun to some players (I can only think of one!) It's not so much about digging the shit in real-time. I agree: That would be boring. No, you build it in the Mission Editor, and then it's about breaching the obstacle, which is usually done much quicker. Or you decide to bypass the obstacle, and deal with the consequences. Most of the earthworks we're working on will be deployable during the planning phase, which is another way to get the stuff quickly where you want it. And in any case, adding decoy minefields will be very useful whenever you deal with a scenario that involves mine obstacles (other than scatter mines). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grenny Posted October 7, 2020 Author Share Posted October 7, 2020 (edited) To change the topic a bit: time to show a killed bug: Edited October 7, 2020 by Grenny 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotareneg Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 (edited) I think the Spike SR was literally the first thing I tested when I installed 4.0, I felt bad posting that bug report. Edited October 7, 2020 by Rotareneg 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grenny Posted October 8, 2020 Author Share Posted October 8, 2020 7 hours ago, Rotareneg said: I think the Spike SR was literally the first thing I tested when I installed 4.0, I felt bad posting that bug report. As I said in the video: now the sce designers need to handle this one with care. These squads are now rather powerful.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted October 8, 2020 Members Share Posted October 8, 2020 ...but how many missiles can a team realistically carry. You certainly overloaded that single guy in your example, or gave him an inexhaustible 1980s model Hollywood Magazine (TM). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumituisku Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Those seem to be similar to Apilas112 in size and weight. It's one that I had to carry a lot.. you could carry two Alone. Third would slow and begin to wear you down or be on your way too much.. and you couldn't fight or move effectively. So if so it makes 2 for each team member. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted October 8, 2020 Members Share Posted October 8, 2020 Wasn't the Apilas discontinued for harmful overpressure on launch? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumituisku Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Ssnake said: Wasn't the Apilas discontinued for harmful overpressure on launch? I don't know. But I suspect that would be true. I served in 2006 so... its been many years since I was there. Also, there was rule that one was forbitted firing it more than 2-3 times during peace because of possible internal injuries. Boom when firing that thing is shocking 😵 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grenny Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) sorry...delay, need to ermake because of shitty sound Second try..not good, but a bit better: Edited October 12, 2020 by Grenny 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotareneg Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 A little janky, but nice nonetheless! Is there a chance for plows to miss mines? Mainly just wondering if there's any practical in sim use for mine rollers as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted October 12, 2020 Members Share Posted October 12, 2020 At this point, the plows always work. I'm considering whether hard ground would prevent the usage of plows, but even if we make that step, we won't make it in the December update (not enough time to test all the implications). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewood Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, Ssnake said: December upgrade What happened to November? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted October 12, 2020 Members Share Posted October 12, 2020 November, December ... it'll be ready when it's ready. We're shooting for November, but of course things depend a bit on the QA team's verdict. Also, it'll be an update, not an upgrade. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrapper_511 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 On 10/7/2020 at 11:53 PM, Ssnake said: You certainly overloaded that single guy in your example, or gave him an inexhaustible 1980s model Hollywood Magazine (TM). It's all about the glorious '80s, Ssnake. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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