Red2112 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocalypse 31 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 He did a great job. I didn't notice any inaccuracies that jumped out at me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamfritz Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 (edited) I had a friend Army Guard who fought with these in Iraq. I asked him what he thought of them and he sat back, grinned and said, "Oh I love 'em! They burn a whole rainbow of color when they're hit. Not just orange or red, like Gavins. Just the whole damn rainbow." This was 16 years ago. <edit, post thought> But the thought that the US Army could make so much of a tool that was judged by so many as inadequate really speaks volumes about the motivation, training and budget of the troops. I mean, the good captain I refer to above did 4 tours IIRC and he always came back, as did most if not all of his troops. They weren't always in Strykers, but he did prefer them to Gavins (you can actually sit up in a Stryker) and they were quieter, as long as you stuck to roads. But I don't understand why they couldnt just us bolt in a few computers into a LAV and use that? Why did they have to hike it up higher? Edited October 26, 2023 by iamfritz 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted October 27, 2023 Members Share Posted October 27, 2023 "Gavin"? There was an airborne general of that name, but his name was never adopted for a vehicle. Some 20 years ago a borderline insane activist started a campaign to rename the M113 as "Gavin", primarily by referencing clueless people who had been duped by him first as circular logic "proof" that the name had already been adopted/everybody was doing it. Please don't follow that madness. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Ssnake said: "Gavin"? There was an airborne general of that name, but his name was never adopted for a vehicle. Some 20 years ago a borderline insane activist started a campaign to rename the M113 as "Gavin", primarily by referencing clueless people who had been duped by him first as circular logic "proof" that the name had already been adopted/everybody was doing it. Please don't follow that madness. At least it's not just outright fallacies and information warfare like the hybrid attack on US aeroframe procurement executed by the "Reformers", just a nutso with a delusion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamfritz Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) Well, that Captain (now a Lt Col) and a couple of his vet/Guard buddies in the office called the M-113 "Gavin" a bunch. I'd thought it was just an Israeli designation, but they (Oregon Nat'l Guard) adopted it in Iraq. Buuuut... now that I think about it, they hated it, so it might have been a troll-nick for it. Edited October 28, 2023 by iamfritz 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 15 minutes ago, iamfritz said: Well, that Captain (now a Lt Col) and a couple of his vet/Guard buddies in the office called the M-113 "Gavin" a bunch. I'd thought it was just an Israeli designation, but they (Oregon Nat'l Guard) adopted it in Iraq. Buuuut... now that I think about it, they hated it, so it might have been a troll-nick for it. The Gavin is a meme. Aerogavin etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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