stormrider_sp Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 43 minutes ago, Ssnake said: Something sounds very wrong here. I don't know what you're doing with your computer outside of visiting this forum and playing Steel Beasts. But it takes hardly 20...30 seconds on (any of) my machines. Yeah, I know. This install is the result of several metamorphosis. It was originally a Win7 installation back in 2015. I was then offered to upgrade for free to Win10 and from that point on, Microsoft attempted more than once to correct some of the errors that occurred with people in a similar situation. I know I should have started from scratch, but I shudder at the the thought of bringing it back to this point again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted April 7, 2021 Members Share Posted April 7, 2021 Nine shutdowns cost you about as much time as one reinstallation of Windows. I understand that preserving all the application specific settings are the more painful aspect that will cost more time. I'm a master procrastinator with the migration to my new computer myself. But you know it has to be done. Just... not today. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koen Posted April 7, 2021 Author Share Posted April 7, 2021 (edited) On 4/5/2021 at 4:09 PM, Koen said: I bought this: .../... HP Gaming laptop OMEN 15-en0014nb (2Z9C6EA) AMD Ryzen 7 4800H RAM: 16 GB NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 6GB .../... and ran a first test, the Hasty Defense-scenario, on default settings. The result: 10 - 15 FPS 🙂 -> What should I look into first ? Tx ! Edited April 7, 2021 by Koen 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted April 7, 2021 Members Share Posted April 7, 2021 The User's Manual lists the graphics settings (roughly) in their descending order of influence on performance. You can open Alt+G and Alt+D simultaneously while you play, and then you can directly observe which settings have the biggest benefit for you. That being said, on notebooks energy savings settings can always have an impact; background applications such as antivirus software starting a complete system scan while you play (because, reasons); graphics card driver settings. It shouldn't be configured to use shared memory for GPU and the rest of your system... but you never know if it isn't actually set to some idiotic, performance-killing configuration. Frankly, with an RTX2060 10..15fps is unacceptable on default settings, unless the scenario in question is modified with crazy visibility settings like 11...15km (and even then I'd be negatively surprised). This makes me wonder if Steel Beasts actually uses the RTX for scene rendering. I suspect that for some reason Windows might be configured to use the integrated graphics of the Ryzen CPU. It's definitely worth checking. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Sean Posted April 8, 2021 Administrators Share Posted April 8, 2021 I would make sure the computer is actually using the good card and not an integrated graphics setup. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormrider_sp Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 12 hours ago, Ssnake said: Nine shutdowns cost you about as much time as one reinstallation of Windows. I understand that preserving all the application specific settings are the more painful aspect that will cost more time. I'm a master procrastinator with the migration to my new computer myself. But you know it has to be done. Just... not today. First, make sure all your drivers are updated. Go to nvidia and download the latests certified. Then, I'd recommend going through one these windows 10 gaming optimization guides, like the one below. Note that there are plenty of these and there are even game specific guides with nvidia control settings. https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/how-to-optimize-windows-for-pc-gaming 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted April 8, 2021 Members Share Posted April 8, 2021 2 hours ago, stormrider_sp said: First, make sure all your drivers are updated. In all fairness, the discrepancy in expeced to observed framerate is too big for me to believe that it's purely a matter of driver optimization. It all smells as if the integrated GPU is being used rather than the NVidia card. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormrider_sp Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ssnake said: In all fairness, the discrepancy in expeced to observed framerate is too big for me to believe that it's purely a matter of driver optimization. It all smells as if the integrated GPU is being used rather than the NVidia card. Most likely yes, but to go through all the optimization means that at some point, the user will be confronted with that option with the bonus of added knowledge. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koen Posted April 8, 2021 Author Share Posted April 8, 2021 3 hours ago, Ssnake said: In all fairness, the discrepancy in expeced to observed framerate is too big for me to believe that it's purely a matter of driver optimization. It all smells as if the integrated GPU is being used rather than the NVidia card. Mysterious: * WIN 10: I linked SB to Nvidia RTX * Nvidia Panel: I linked SB to Nvidia RTX (and restarted) * Task Manager: shows that SB runs on GPU-0, that is Nvidia RTX * but I have 15 FPS What would be the reason ? Am I doing something monumentally stupid ? (I can upload pics) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormrider_sp Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Koen said: Mysterious: * WIN 10: I linked SB to Nvidia RTX * Nvidia Panel: I linked SB to Nvidia RTX (and restarted) * Task Manager: shows that SB runs on GPU-0, that is Nvidia RTX * but I have 15 FPS What would be the reason ? Am I doing something monumentally stupid ? (I can upload pics) Click start and type in Power, open Power & Sleep settings, then additional power settings, then choose High Performance mode or similar. Open nvidia control panel and post screenshots of your settings. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrapper_511 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 On my laptop, if the charger cable is not plugged in, it will not use the discrete GPU. Perhaps, yours has a similar feature? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koen Posted April 8, 2021 Author Share Posted April 8, 2021 (edited) Thank you all for the good tips. Indeed it works ... if the charger cable IS plugged in 😵 + 60 FPS (sometimes + 40 FPS). BUT if the charger cable is NOT plugged in, it will not use the discrete GPU ... back to 15 FPS ... So same as for you, Scrapper_511, HP Support Community confirms your advice, stormrider_sp: Solved: Re: FPS Drops when switching to battery - HP Support Community - 7701264 All laptops will only game at half or less their rating when on battery only. This is absolutely normal. They do this to conserve battery power and heat, no matter what settings you have in the systems power options. You can change this to allow the graphics card to perform a little better on battery only by changing the settings in the NVIDIA control panel instead. NOTE this will still not be as good as gaming on power cord. HP recommends you always game with the power plugged in. This will prevent your battery from reaching its end of life sooner. NVIDIA control panel: Changing the Global settings > Power Management Mode to Prefer Maximum Performance will force the laptop to always use the NVIDIA card. Or if you use the Program settings tab, you can individually choose what program or game uses full power instead. Edited April 8, 2021 by Koen 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormrider_sp Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 I'm glad you sorted it out, now it's time to enjoy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrapper_511 Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 On 4/8/2021 at 1:36 PM, Koen said: Indeed it works ... Yeah, the GPUs just take too much juice from the battery alone. Glad you got your fps up! Happy gaming! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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