bloodycut Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 What modern tank strategy book do you recommend? I don't find any one despite ww2 area though they're good in historical aspect. Books Tank Warfare and Tank Combat I was found at Amazon. What do you think of them? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted March 6, 2022 Members Share Posted March 6, 2022 Not sure what you mean. "Strategy" implies discussing how, on a theater level, an enemy can be defeated, which is pretty much guaranteed an all-encompassing topic covering economics, intelligence-gathering, logistics, inter-service and combined-arms combat, and here tanks are but a small (if potentially important) component. "Tank" on the other hand implies discussion at the tactical, or possibly operational level. In the Steel Beasts documents folder you'll find a Word document called TankSOP. It's a better starting point than most for understanding tactics from a tank-centric view. So, that would be my recommendation. Historically, two influential books were translated to English, Guderian's "Die Panzerwaffe" and Rommel's "Panzer greifen an". They deal with the very basics or armored doctrine (talking to an audience for which tanks were still a new development, without an established doctrine). Probably out of print today but maybe they can still be found on Amazon Marketplaces or something. Basil Lidell-Hart was an influential armor theoretician around the 1950s. I bet there must be good books from Soviet authors, but I don't know them. Maybe Jarvs as a recommendation here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 You could look here for Lidell-Hart's "Theory of Armoured Warfare": https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1057/9780333982389_1?noAccess=true J. F. C. Fuller's theories get a treatment here: https://wlv.openrepository.com/bitstream/handle/2436/620683/Ventham PhD Thesis.pdf?sequence=5&isAllowed=y Of course if you have the $ you can buy the Original books (or almost) too: https://www.amazon.com.au/Strategy-Indirect-Approach-Liddell-Hart/dp/1376202417/ref=sr_1_7?keywords=liddell+hart&qid=1646559727&s=books&sprefix=Liddell%2Cstripbooks%2C1249&sr=1-7 https://www.amazon.com.au/Tanks-Great-War-1914-18-Development/dp/1782828877/ref=sr_1_28?crid=1D1JJXXMHKETX&keywords=J+F+C+Fuller&qid=1646560419&s=books&sprefix=j+f+c+fuller%2Cstripbooks%2C375&sr=1-28 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodycut Posted March 6, 2022 Author Share Posted March 6, 2022 Ok thanks for these recommendations 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirzayev Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 For doctrinal stuff, ATP 3-20.15, Tank Platoon. If you can master that, you are gonna be quite formidable tactically. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 10 hours ago, bloodycut said: Ok thanks for these recommendations Remember these are strategy books. If you want tactical employment information (what to do with them on the battlefield) then sure: 3 hours ago, Mirzayev said: For doctrinal stuff, ATP 3-20.15, Tank Platoon. If you can master that, you are gonna be quite formidable tactically. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodycut Posted March 6, 2022 Author Share Posted March 6, 2022 Tactic and strategy books, thanx again for suggestions. I have also Sun Tzu The Art of War. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpow66m Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 The Book of Five Rings 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodycut Posted March 7, 2022 Author Share Posted March 7, 2022 I found whole book of ATP 3-20.15, Tank Platoon. It was good enough for my purposes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red2112 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 12 hours ago, mpow66m said: The Book of Five Rings Sorry to go off topic here (like If I never did that!), but Is that a Fiat 600 In your avatar picture? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted March 7, 2022 Members Share Posted March 7, 2022 No, a Fiat 500 (traditional model "cinquecento"), as fas as I can tell. All of Italy fit into this one car. Don't know if it is this car in particular - but it's white, so it may be the one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpow66m Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Hello, I have know I dea,its tiny tho.I took that when i was at Camp Longoria 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red2112 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 21 hours ago, Ssnake said: No, a Fiat 500 (traditional model "cinquecento"), as fas as I can tell. All of Italy fit into this one car. Don't know if it is this car in particular - but it's white, so it may be the one. Yes your right, I forgot there´s the newer version cinquecento (500 In Italian). Thank you Ssnake, picture was a bit small and I am getting old! I wont make the joke of how to fit all of Italy In a 600 just In case 😁 But I prefer the original classic 600 which Is from my and my parents era. You could basically fix that thing with a piece of wire and some Bazooka gum If needed! It fits the "they don´t make them like they use to" saying. Oh and that thing was more economic then a gas lighter (depending on how much of a smoker one Is)! Good memories and they still make heads turn when seen on a road. A true European classic for those who never been to Europe. Anywho´s sorry for the derailment here! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodycut Posted March 10, 2022 Author Share Posted March 10, 2022 Let's keep this discussion about books. I have found now three good books about tactics in my own language, one in English and one in German. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoanCornishOj Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 (edited) I agree. I can't find a decent modern book either. There are books with good historical accuracy, but they are usually very difficult to follow. I'm not a writer myself, of course. The point of a good text is that the reader can find solutions to their problems or questions, get important or interesting information, and be entertained or think. I turned to a medical editing service when I needed to write something like that for my studies and work. Getting quality text can come in handy in many areas of life, whether you are writing a medical school application, a motivational letter for a job, or publishing a book. Edited May 10, 2022 by JoanCornishOj 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted May 5, 2022 Members Share Posted May 5, 2022 Well, which ones did you find, and why did they not match your expectations? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ingrahammark7 Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 John F Antal, also the marine vignettes and Musicians of Mars. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamfritz Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 On 9/13/2023 at 9:20 AM, ingrahammark7 said: John F Antal, also the marine vignettes and Musicians of Mars. Agreed. His interactive fictions about tank combat (ARMOR ATTACKS and COMBAT TEAM) come with great interactive examples of tank tactics, lectures what you did wrong, and explanations when you win. His INFANTRY COMBAT is also a great exercise in infantry company level tactics. Very meaty, entertaining and educational. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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