thewood Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 (edited) Noticed it in the mission editor video on masking...T-72B3 2012 Also noticed BTR-82AT and Leopard 2A6MA2. Edited May 19, 2022 by thewood 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted May 20, 2022 Members Share Posted May 20, 2022 The T-72B3 could already be spotted on the current mousepad. Looks like this is the second sighting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munckmb Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 I'm actually paying more attention to these videos just to catch a glimps of new stuff😂 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDeath Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Also BREM-1 M ARV M109 CP M60A3 BTR82 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocalypse 31 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Masking would be an awesome feature for the PE version. I'm guessing none of those eastern vehicles will be playable 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumituisku Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 (edited) Leopard masked to T-72b3 look hilarious with floating MG3 Edited May 20, 2022 by Lumituisku 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDeath Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Lumituisku said: Leopard masked to T-72b3 look hilarious with floating MG3 If you see a T-72 going backward at 50kmh, there is something wrong for sure ^^ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assassin 7 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Lumituisku said: Leopard masked to T-72b3 look hilarious with floating MG3 Knowing that the T-72b3 is more than likely coming, I hope that this masked feature will be added too. It’s a great design and very useful. Edited May 20, 2022 by Assassin 7 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDeath Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Assassin 7 said: Knowing that the T-72b3 is more than likely coming, I hope that this masked feature will be added too. It’s a great design and very useful. Seems highly unlikely, the first sentence in the video is "Available in the classroom version of SB Pro". But i may be wrong, of course. Edit : That's a no (which I very well understand) From YT Esim commentaries : I understand that, but we have to keep the classroom version functionally different from the Personal Edition in certain key areas. Edited May 20, 2022 by BlackDeath 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assassin 7 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, BlackDeath said: Seems highly unlikely, the first sentence in the video is "Available in the classroom version of SB Pro". But i may be wrong, of course. Edit : That's a no (which I very well understand) From YT Esim commentaries : I understand that, but we have to keep the classroom version functionally different from the Personal Edition in certain key areas. Thanks, yeah was suspecting this is the case. All well for the hopes Edited May 20, 2022 by Assassin 7 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted May 20, 2022 Members Share Posted May 20, 2022 Yeah, sorry. We discussed the Masking feature about a year or two ago here in the forum. No can do. To spell it out for some, we have to make sure that the Personal Edition stays "game enough" that it doesn't fall under export control law. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assassin 7 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Just now, Ssnake said: Yeah, sorry. We discussed the Masking feature about a year or two ago here in the forum. No can do. To spell it out for some, we have to make sure that the Personal Edition stays "game enough" that it doesn't fall under export control law. So masking another Tank would fall under an export law? How so? As it’s explained in the video it’s another vehicle that is being crewed that is already in the Sim but looks different. Just asking. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assassin 7 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 9 minutes ago, Assassin 7 said: So masking another Tank would fall under an export law? How so? As it’s explained in the video it’s another vehicle that is being crewed that is already in the Sim but looks different. Just asking. You know what just disregard, I’m sure you have better stuff to attend to. Thanks for the reply, it’s appreciated and thanks for what you guys done so far. Can’t wait for the update 👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vikingo Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Can't wait for 4.3 surprises! Hope is some east T with that fancy TV inside 👀 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 9 hours ago, BlackDeath said: If you see a T-72 going backward at 50kmh, there is something wrong for sure ^^ I'd be more concered when it's taking HEAT rounds to the face and laughing back at you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDeath Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 Just thinking about it, masking in SB is pretty much the same system than what America's army (the game) used, but with more versitality https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/America's_Army 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted May 22, 2022 Members Share Posted May 22, 2022 Yes... the problem with export law as it applies to simulations like Steel Beasts, there is not that sharp dividing line that says, "if this of that feature is in it, it's export controlled". Effectively it's the sum of features that make the difference. Also nobody will give you a clear answer when you ask for advice, including the same authorities that are supposed to control your exports. Instead, it's the vendor's duty to self-assess and act accordingly, and export control authorities (US or Germany, no difference) reserve the right settle in court if your assessment was wrong. And that works like this: Someone decides that you are in violation of the law, then alers the state attorney across the street who then mobilizes the police, they raid your office and seize everything of potential utility value, including all backups that they can find. Then they start a forensic process that can take years, then the court proceedings which will take years, and finally the court might rule that eSim Games was innocent after all, or more likely, that the case is moot because eSim Games filed for bankruptcy right after the raid simply because: With computers and backups gone, you can't continue your business, without business you can't pay programmers and 3D artists, so everybody went for a new job the day after the raid, and their passion of working for future eSim Games has been substituted by passion for the reliable paychecks they get from Ordinary, Inc. This in turn curbs my enthusiasm today to see how far I can go teetering the edge of the grey zone. Sure, if I were a shady arms dealer supplying an army of aggression I would probably deserve to go to jail for it. But the practical reality is that the office raid is the punishment, and the office can't be unraided, the business cannot be restored. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocalypse 31 Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 On 5/20/2022 at 4:02 AM, BlackDeath said: M60A3 BTR82 Already in game 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDeath Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 43 minutes ago, Apocalypse 31 said: Already in game Nope, you got M60A3(TTS) (which may acts as proxy for M60A3) No BTR-82 either (but BTR-82A, though) Maybe my version does not include those? i'm at 4.259 (not the latest but close) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocalypse 31 Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, BlackDeath said: Nope, you got M60A3(TTS) (which may acts as proxy for M60A3) No BTR-82 either (but BTR-82A, though) Maybe my version does not include those? i'm at 4.259 (not the latest but close) You're right. Good catch. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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