Galileo Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 The largest state arms production program in modern Russian history, for which 20 trillion rubles have been allocated from the federal budget over the past 10 years, has been scrapped. In early November, Russian President Vladimir Putin instructed to rewrite the army's supply standards and bring them "in line with the real needs" of the armed forces. According to the list of Putin's assignments, the order must be implemented as soon as possible, i.e., by November 14. Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin and Minister of Defense Sergei Shoigu were put in charge of this task. De facto Putin has suspended the state armament program, the basic plan on the basis of which the military-industrial complex has been working for the last several years. A source close to the Ministry of Defense and a senior manager of a defense industry company told Vedomosti that the Plan ceased to be the document used for purchasing armaments and financing the military-industrial complex. In fact, the development of the new SAP which was estimated at 22 trillion rubles has been suspended too, said one of the sources of the newspaper. The reason, according to him, is that it is necessary to "revise the priorities" based on the experience of the campaign in Ukraine. Launched in the early 2010s and then expanded every five years, the state arms production program "ate" about two trillion rubles annually - two-thirds of the defense budget. According to the plan, by 2020 the army was supposed to receive divisions of Armata tanks, a new strategic bomber, 600 planes, and thousands of helicopters, while the share of modern weapons was supposed to grow to 70%. But the Russian army entered Ukraine with old equipment, paper maps, and exhausted its supply of high-precision missiles in a matter of months. After mass mobilization, it was forced to hand out World War II equipment to untrained soldiers. The Kremlin had to turn to Iran and North Korea for weapons, and Belarus for uniforms for the military. But even that was not enough: after the mass mobilization, the Defense Ministry was forced to hand out World War II-era equipment to untrained soldiers. Contrary to U.S. intelligence predictions that Kiev could fall in three days, Russian troops were on the verge of a fiasco, surrendering half of the conquered territories, including Kharkov Oblast and Kherson, by early November. The Russian military-industrial complex is now no longer capable of producing and maintaining "critical equipment for operations in Ukraine," U.S. Deputy Treasury Secretary Wally Adeyemo said Oct. 14. The military-industrial complex has been hit by Western sanctions that have cut off factories from high-tech goods. The most deplorable situation is in the Russian microelectronics industry, where components for the production of weapons are almost non-existent, Adeyemo said. Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version) https://www-moscowtimes-eu.translate.goog/2022/11/11/20-trillionov-na-veter-krupneishaya-v-rossiiskoi-istorii-gosprogramma-proizvodstva-oruzhiya-ostanovlena-posle-provalov-v-ukraine-a26303 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12Alfa Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 (edited) " exhausted its supply of high-precision missiles" Thats why the amount, and effects is growing, every report states "Their running out of missles", Yet the next attack has more. "After mass mobilization" BS recent mobiblezation of reserves is between 1.5 -1.7 %, 370k of total (25million) with much more avaib. Pure BS We can see the numbers increasing, only a idiot would think this is serious reporting. Next we shall read they are using washing machine parts for hyper weponds....:) all this from: "said one of the sources of the newspaper. The reason, according to him" Edited November 21, 2022 by 12Alfa Critical thinking skills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpow66m Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 The RU Army is just plain out get their asses handed to them.There is no doubt about it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12Alfa Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 2 hours ago, mpow66m said: The RU Army is just plain out get their asses handed to them.There is no doubt about it. So "true", I hear they lost 20% (-/+) of their country, and 50% of their elec grid, 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted November 22, 2022 Members Share Posted November 22, 2022 Gentlemen, you're closing fast with the boundaries of this forum's ruleset. I advise to change course immediately. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12Alfa Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Reversing direction, but it's muddy, Mobilized and T-14 _Armata_.mp4 dismounts doing better 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpow66m Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 9 hours ago, Ssnake said: Gentlemen, you're closing fast with the boundaries of this forum's ruleset. I advise to change course immediately. Np,didnt realise I was. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 (edited) On 11/20/2022 at 9:25 PM, Galileo said: The largest state arms production program in modern Russian history, for which 20 trillion rubles have been allocated from the federal budget over the past 10 years, has been scrapped. In early November, Russian President Vladimir Putin instructed to rewrite the army's supply standards and bring them "in line with the real needs" of the armed forces. According to the list of Putin's assignments, the order must be implemented as soon as possible, i.e., by November 14. Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin and Minister of Defense Sergei Shoigu were put in charge of this task. De facto Putin has suspended the state armament program, the basic plan on the basis of which the military-industrial complex has been working for the last several years. A source close to the Ministry of Defense and a senior manager of a defense industry company told Vedomosti that the Plan ceased to be the document used for purchasing armaments and financing the military-industrial complex. In fact, the development of the new SAP which was estimated at 22 trillion rubles has been suspended too, said one of the sources of the newspaper. The reason, according to him, is that it is necessary to "revise the priorities" based on the experience of the campaign in Ukraine. Launched in the early 2010s and then expanded every five years, the state arms production program "ate" about two trillion rubles annually - two-thirds of the defense budget. According to the plan, by 2020 the army was supposed to receive divisions of Armata tanks, a new strategic bomber, 600 planes, and thousands of helicopters, while the share of modern weapons was supposed to grow to 70%. But the Russian army entered Ukraine with old equipment, paper maps, and exhausted its supply of high-precision missiles in a matter of months. After mass mobilization, it was forced to hand out World War II equipment to untrained soldiers. The Kremlin had to turn to Iran and North Korea for weapons, and Belarus for uniforms for the military. But even that was not enough: after the mass mobilization, the Defense Ministry was forced to hand out World War II-era equipment to untrained soldiers. Contrary to U.S. intelligence predictions that Kiev could fall in three days, Russian troops were on the verge of a fiasco, surrendering half of the conquered territories, including Kharkov Oblast and Kherson, by early November. The Russian military-industrial complex is now no longer capable of producing and maintaining "critical equipment for operations in Ukraine," U.S. Deputy Treasury Secretary Wally Adeyemo said Oct. 14. The military-industrial complex has been hit by Western sanctions that have cut off factories from high-tech goods. The most deplorable situation is in the Russian microelectronics industry, where components for the production of weapons are almost non-existent, Adeyemo said. Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version) https://www-moscowtimes-eu.translate.goog/2022/11/11/20-trillionov-na-veter-krupneishaya-v-rossiiskoi-istorii-gosprogramma-proizvodstva-oruzhiya-ostanovlena-posle-provalov-v-ukraine-a26303 Hmmm, Whose Dacha did all that money end up going into? It doesn't surprise me though MBT-70 Sgt York Ajax and now T-14 a long line of failed defence projects. Edited November 29, 2022 by Hedgehog 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted November 29, 2022 Members Share Posted November 29, 2022 You didn't mention XM8 AGS XM2001 Crusader FCS GCV EEEV RAH-66 Comanche 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 (edited) I guess Rheinmetall's concept Panther KF51 and more generally its 130mm gun project will attract less interest now. Edited December 3, 2022 by Gibsonm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocalypse 31 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 3 hours ago, Ssnake said: XM8 AGS XM2001 Crusader FCS GCV EEEV RAH-66 Comanche And for a good reason - None of those concepts brought any additional capability that upgrades to existing models couldn't achieve. GCV isn't dead though - it's still a thing but more of an overall project; AMPV is an output and its definitely a thing. As is the MPF (Coming to an IBCT near you) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamfritz Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 On 11/29/2022 at 1:54 PM, Ssnake said: You didn't mention XM8 AGS XM2001 Crusader FCS GCV EEEV RAH-66 Comanche Which FCS? There were at least a couple. Lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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