tarball Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 Nah, no need for that. I wasn't really referring to you -- I knew you recently downgraded your internet connection to 14.4 baud so the uber host version would not be practical with your new situation. :frown: But I know we have had others get it in the past, some of which I have never seen host a game. Oh well, I suppose it doesn't matter anyway, all the previous uber host versions are probably several versions behind now.V,What we REALLY need is a dedicated server. I'd be willing to kick in towards it. It is nice that some guys, Sean and Ghost come to mind, have both the connections and machines to host large games, but we might benefit from an eSimGames dedicated server. Log in remotely, setup the game and invite the masses.I think they can be had for < $100/mo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalAB Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 I would throw down some loot on a monthly basis as well. A dedicated server for this sim would rock. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhay Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Warbirds of Prey is a group of flight simmers running the IL-2 air combat games from Ubisoft. They maintain several servers that are open to anyone, and are funded by voluntary donations from members. Many more use the servers than donate, but they have kept them running for years. But they have a much broader support base than SteelBeasts, IL-2 has been very popular for years. A dedicated server would be an excellent idea if we could muster the financial support. Having a server that is available 24/7 would certainly expand the reach of multiplayer games and increase the potential for donations of support. Since we all enjoy large scale battles, it is unreasonable and somewhat unfair to rely/impose on one or two individuals to make it happen once a week. I hope to see continued discussion and exploration of this proposal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacbat Posted August 31, 2009 Author Share Posted August 31, 2009 What about joining up with the Germans? I think they're running a dedicated server. The time difference would be such that we wouldn't be getting in each other's way, and the ping should still be reasonable since there haven't been too many issues when they host the "Long Night of Tanks". They might welcome a few extra bucks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Sean Posted September 1, 2009 Administrators Share Posted September 1, 2009 If you guys want to handle administering and paying for a dedicated server, I'll be able to provide the dongle and license for it. You'll need to find a few people responsible enough to log in/run it and show up on a frequent basis to do so. And someone will need to collect the money for it. Hamachi might work out, but you would need to get everyone up and running on it first. It would be interesting to see how it scales up for bigger games. I know the germans have used it, but I dont know how many players are using it or if most set up port forwarding. If it all works out it would be great to have someone else who can host. I'm not sure who is running the server for the germans, but we would probably have conflicts on the weekends. Friday would probably be ok though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogwa Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 I would be willing to help with all that.Mog 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalAB Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 I guess a PayPal account or something similar to get it started. Count me in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacbat Posted September 1, 2009 Author Share Posted September 1, 2009 Hamachi might work out, but you would need to get everyone up and running on it first. It would be interesting to see how it scales up for bigger games. Hopefully there'll be enough guys around with it installed for TNT tonight. It seems logical to test it with 8 players first to see if there are any issues with it before worrying about running the special version. MTF. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShotMagnet Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 If you guys want to handle administering and paying for a dedicated server, I'll be able to provide the dongle and license for it. You'll need to find a few people responsible enough to log in/run it and show up on a frequent basis to do so. And someone will need to collect the money for it. Echoing Mogwa, I'd be willing to help with that too.Shot 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Sean Posted September 2, 2009 Administrators Share Posted September 2, 2009 Awesome, sounds like there's some interest here. When you guys are done working things out amongst yourselves, let me know how its going to work. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singleshot Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Hamachi might work out, but you would need to get everyone up and running on it first. It would be interesting to see how it scales up for bigger games. I know the germans have used it, but I dont know how many players are using it or if most set up port forwarding. If it all works out it would be great to have someone else who can host. I think 95% of our members were able to set up their routers correctly. So we normaly don´t have more than 1 or 2 hamachi users. Sometimes at LNOT there are some more, who need a hamachi connection, maybe 6-8. But I don´t think, there will be a problem with 10 or more using hamachi.I wish you good look to set up a server. But it will not be easy (who wants to sign the contract, collecting the money, ...). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarball Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Okay, I'm going to shop some dedicated server joints (most likely those with data centers in Dallas) and see whats up. If I see something I like, I'll share it with Sean and see what he thinks. If all looks well, then I'll aim for the first week of Oct. Dedicated machines aren't cheap, but the bandwidth in these data centers almost makes it worth it. I'd be willing to try it for a year. If the donations (all voluntary) are too thin, then I would reconsider after the year.Anyhow, that's my proposal.When I floated the idea, I thought that maybe eSimGames would consider subsidizing the affair, but I am willing to try it with or without the subsidy. There is a rather sticky point to all of this and that's the dongle. We could colo a machine, and I have a few older machines sitting around, but colo is quite expensive. Thus, if you are renting a machine, often times one the is running virutally, then the dongle bit is a stumbling point. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 If you lack a host for fridays TGIF, drop me a line, i have the über version of SB and the connection to support it, the time is completely off my grid (4 or 5 in the morning i thinkg but that's what an alarm clock is for :-)I think i would be able to make it, just let me know 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShotMagnet Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Tar, Mog, what say we swap emails and discuss how we want to fund/set this up?GaryOwen put a bug in my ear about this, we might want to fold him in as well. PM me if you don't have my e-mail address, or PM GO. He has it.Shot 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarball Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Well, the job can be done for as little as ~$60 per month. However, there are several other issues which thwart this effort, not the least of which is the dongle problem.Ghost's offer is generous, but the time diff is an issue for Friday games. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShotMagnet Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 Didn't Sean solve the dongle problem? Or is there another?Shot 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grenny Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 Good luck guys!Would be great to see another server running.After all,a little healthy competition is good :-) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarball Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 The dongle problem is nearly a deal-breaker but not entirely so; it is possible to alias to another dongle with a legit license. However, there is also the matter of remote access and the nature of the game itself. None of these are insurmountable problems, but they are sticking points. Lastly, for the level of interest, going to these lengths may not be all that cost effective. Personally, after talking around with others, I am on the fence with the idea. It is technically feasible, but not direly needed. It is almost better to see if a beneficent community member would host on a spare machine. On that note, Ghost's offer is worth further exploration.If I were to sign any hosting agreement (and pay for it upfront), which I am still willing to do, my acceptance of any monetary donations would not imply of confer any rights, whatsoever, to anyone else. A better scenario is the spare-server-at-someone's-house option. There are so many cities in North America which are acquiring really good broadband that I am certain the list of those who can facilitate such an option is on the rise.Anyhow, thank you to those who have expressed interest. I may still start something on or around the first of Oct., but this will require further consultations with those who would make the details of such a proposal possible. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShotMagnet Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 I don't know about housing a server long-term, but I could find it a suitable home here until at least February. Probably not helpful, long-term, but in the meantime I'm sure that someone of suitable reliability and psychiatric integrity could be found for the aforementioned long-term.Shot 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacbat Posted September 10, 2009 Author Share Posted September 10, 2009 Perhaps we could start another thread where perspective hosts could post their connection speed results so we can see who has a strong connection, and go from there? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacbat Posted September 15, 2009 Author Share Posted September 15, 2009 A quick update on the status of the campaign;I expect the next mission to be played in the next little while.I also expect the campaign to draw to a conclusion within the next 2-3 missions, one way or the other. This should put the end date of the campaign no later than mid Oct.Keep the faith. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacbat Posted September 17, 2009 Author Share Posted September 17, 2009 Looks like mission 11 will be on for tomorrow night's TGIF. Both CO's should be around, so if enough people show up we can continue the campaign. With only a few missions remaining, don't miss out! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 http://www.steelbeasts.com/sbforums/showthread.php?t=13712&page=2Could this provide the impetous for the next campaign?Save the Heroic generals remains!Stop his desecration by Blue (or Red) nationals!!(All up to the next campaign coordinator, of course.) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango29 Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 Hi,Just back from England, but my computer system is having real problems. Might not be ready for tonight. I'll try to make it. If not successful...GO BLUE!!Cheers, All, 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueSnake79 Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 Last night was fun. Great to get it going again after a long break. Looking forward to next friday. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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