Moderators Volcano Posted April 8, 2011 Moderators Share Posted April 8, 2011 I haven't noticed that anyone wanted either a playable M1A2 or a playable T-72. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skybird03 Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 (edited) Isn't this^ bordering trolling?EDIT:[originally referring to the original posting above mine that meanwhile seem to have been deleted and replaced with Volcano to whom I did NOT adress this]Hasn't there been just the latest round of "I want my playable T-72" just days ago, and an obviously stressed sales manager having found - beyond his usual moderate temparement - quite some clear and somewhat confronting words for the issue of this behavior? How many such threads have there already been? Do we already count them by the dozens?Most of the time I just sit still in hiding in here, and just observe the forum, but I have started to truly desire that there will never be a playable T-72 - for revenge, because it really starts to drum on my nerves if one needs to deal with the same type of comments time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time again.Ich bewundere Deine Selbstkontrolle, Ssnake. Edited April 8, 2011 by Skybird03 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grenny Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 Isn't this^ bordering trolling? Hasn't there been just the latest round of "I want my playable T-72" just days ago, and an obviously stressed sales manager having found - beyond his usual moderate temparement - quite some clear and somewhat confronting words for the issue of this behavior? How many such threads have there already been? Do we already count them by the dozens?Most of the time I just sit still in hiding in here, and just observe the forum, but I have started to truly desire that there will never be a playable T-72 - for revenge, because it really starts to drum on my nerves if one needs to deal with the same type of comments time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time again.Ich bewundere Deine Selbstkontrolle, Ssnake. You forgot the "I want movin roadwheels/suspension !" threads :-P(Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grenny Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 Again:Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratos Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 I'm tired of all this. Request wathever you want guys. Thanks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogwa Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 (edited) Yawn.Good grief. For whatever reason people want a damned T-72. Others want bouncing roadwheels. What difference does it make? Things will be added when they are added. Nothing short of a military contract can change this.Mog Edited April 9, 2011 by Mogwa 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dejawolf Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 T-72! i've thoroughly greased myself in with a foot thick layer of patience for that thing, counting the esim minutes, as they fly by. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrapper_511 Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 ...I have started to truly desire that there will never be a playable T-72 - for revenge...Well that can't be healthy... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted April 8, 2011 Members Share Posted April 8, 2011 The posts have been edited, can we now please pretend that it never happened?The further this gets protracted, the bigger the harm for everybody. Really - in the end, everybody will lose. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 So back to the M1A2 SEP:That Flex Mounted .50cal looks like fun.Not too sure on the FCS operation, M1TP2 was a bit vague on how that worked.As I recall if the computer was out you could still hit stuff 2Km away without changing the laying procedure. :confused: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 I was thinking more along the lines of: Does the GPS reticule still jump about?Nevertheless, very informative. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damian90 Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 I was thinking more along the lines of: Does the GPS reticule still jump about?You mean when dynamic lead is applied? From what I know the new sight have dual axis head assembly like in for example Leo2 not single axis head assembly like in case of older sight.BTW dta delta, when You wrote:The 1st Gen FLIR radiant thermal sighting system You meant 2nd generation? As it is described everywhere. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottoramsaig Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 And to think I started my tank career on an M48A5........ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted April 12, 2011 Members Share Posted April 12, 2011 ...at least it was an A5 configuration. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koen Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 Question: In SB, is the presence of CITV in M1A2 reflected in better situational awareness for M1A2 SEP vs M1A1 (HA), when comparing computer-controlled vehicles ? (or should that not be really necessary ?)THX, K 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted April 12, 2011 Members Share Posted April 12, 2011 As the M1A2 isn't implemented yet, the question is purely hypothetical.Assuming that it actually was implemented, I need to check whether the increased LOS range for tanks with thermal imagers makes a distinction between commander and gunner. I suspect that it doesn't, in which case there would be no bonus. But if Steel Beasts actually treats both separately, it would at least help the computer-controlled commander to detect targets beyond the optical range.In a perfect world there would be a clear distinction between detection, categorization, and identification. The CITV would help especially with the latter two aspects, probably not so much with the first one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 In a perfect world there would be a clear distinction between detection, categorization, and identification. The CITV would help especially with the latter two aspects, probably not so much with the first one.Except of course it would increase coverage.The Gunner could continue to scan his arac, whilst the Commander is free to cover other areas as opposed to both basically looking at the same spot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabot_ready Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 Question: In SB, is the presence of CITV in M1A2 reflected in better situational awareness for M1A2 SEP vs M1A1 (HA), when comparing computer-controlled vehicles ? (or should that not be really necessary ?)THX, KI think he wanted to know if there is a spotting bonus for the AI controlled M1A2. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koen Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 (edited) I think he wanted to know if there is a spotting bonus for the AI controlled M1A2.That would be the question indeed.And same question for Leo 2A5 (with its Thermal Imaging Module - TIM): when AI controlled, does it have a spotting bonus vs AI controlled tanks such as M1A1 or T-72 without such "aiding tool" for the TC ?* In other words, in SB (AI controlled tanks) does the addition of a CITV/TIM result in added value vs tanks without these, so where the TC only has a bino ? * And in real life: does it make an important distinction ? I remember from M1TP2 :-) that the hunter (TC)-killer (gunner) capability of M1A2 was rated very highly ...Less important: would there be a spotting bonus for an AI controlled Leo 2A5 (with its Thermal Imaging Module - TIM) vs AI controlled Leo 2A5 (with Peri, so without thermal image) ?Guess here the difference is less dramatic vs tks without either CITV/TIM and/or Peri ?THX, K Edited April 13, 2011 by Koen 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I remember from M1TP2 :-) that the hunter (TC)-killer (gunner) capability of M1A2 was rated very highly ...HA! When it worked, usually when the enemy were close enough to spit at.(I'm refering to gameplay BTW not real life.)Thats what I like about commanding in SB.The gunner, if he can see it, he actually shoots the f**king thing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnAlienware Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Wow. I was just hoping to hear about the feasibility of a modern M1A1. <-A1.Any chance of crewable 21st century American vehicles in the next update?Thanks! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted April 16, 2011 Members Share Posted April 16, 2011 Those who know can't say. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrapper_511 Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Aside from the CITV, what other differences are there between the A1 and A2? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damian90 Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 A1 have CWS, A2 have ICWS, most A1's besides AIM versions (AIM v.1, AIM v.2/SA, SA/ED (AIM v.3?) and new AIM version with stabilized CWS with new sights) and FEP version are not digitzed, A2 and A2SEP are digitzed.Well in fact the new M1A1AIM's and M1A1FEP have FCS, armor, most components same as M1A2SEP have, the only differences are still lack of CITV, CWS instead of ICWS and lack of VCSU/TMS, also M1A1's have EAPU mounted on the turret rear while M1A2SEP's have UAAPU mounted in place of left rear sponson fuel tank or they don't have UAAPU at all and rely on new battery packs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueSnake79 Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 One of our members "Fabfire" has a really nice site:http://www.fprado.com/armorsite/abrams.htm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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